Official says no sign of permit in Ottoman archives, in blow to British Museum, which defends legal right to statuary

  • @odium@programming.dev
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    2325 days ago

    How many fucking things has the British museum stolen? Every year I hear about something or another that they’ve stolen from other countries and refuse to return.

    • WIZARD POPE💫
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      925 days ago

      They have stolen basically everything that does not originate from the brittish isles.

      • kbal
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        325 days ago

        Who’s to say they didn’t steal the British Isles too? Londonium belongs to Rome! Or maybe the Celts have a better claim.

        • WIZARD POPE💫
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          425 days ago

          Well sure keep thinking that. The point is that the artefacts found in the brittish isles make sense to be in the brittish museum which ks located on those isles.

          • kbal
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            25 days ago

            Nobody is thinking that, which is approximately the point. Mostly I just derive a wry amusement from watching the descendants of long-obsolete empires squabble over the creations of their distant ancestors.

            Greece making the case that what Turkey has to say about it is of prime importance (if the impression one gets from the Guardian is accurate) seems especially ironic.

            • WIZARD POPE💫
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              225 days ago

              I mean I see their point though. The statues were taken from their original spot in the time that area was under Ottoman rule. If there are no records of the ottomans letting them take these statues (their claim to them not really being relevant here) it clearly shows that they were taken without permission (stolen). The question of the turks claiming these statues as their own does not really matter in this case. At least that is how I see it.

              • @shottymcb@lemm.ee
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                24 days ago

                So the people who live on the land that a long defunct empire who conquered the land the statues were on get to decide where they artifacts of an even longer defunct empire belong vs the other people who live in a long defunct empire who also conquered the land.

                Makes total sense. Especially since the sincerely held religious beliefs of long defunct empire #1 would prefer them to be ground into dust.

    • Random_Character_A
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      825 days ago

      Welcome to our planet!

      This topic is old as time time itself. Only thing that has changes, is that in modern times somebody gives a fuck.

      Brittish pretty much grabbed everything they could carry. “Acquirement without permission” percentage is probably so high that it’s rude to guess.