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    Amazing to see Jon back. I watched The Daily Show with Jon Stewart obsessively for years, and never thought to see this again. He’s still got it. Just a few more white hairs.

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      Given that I also aged in the interim, I prefer his current look. He’s a silver fox.

      I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. I’m grateful that he’s back to give us a way to laugh through the bullshit and motivate us to keep fighting.

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        I liked the Apple TV show, too. The podcast was one of my absolute go-to’s every week, even if I was not that interested in the topic. He said something in one of them similar to the idea he had at the end of Monday’s TDS where he said that if you want to do change, it takes hard work on the local level. If you want to get out of the mind-fuck that is national politics in the US (and I’d argue in most places), you need to actually pay attention to what is happening in your own neighborhood and try to fix that.

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          Which is a fair point, but also at the local level is where it’s more challenging, because not only are you getting involved with things that more directly affect you, but also you can make yourself a target to those that want to push change in the other direction, so of course not everyone is up to that task and that’s why the overly aggressive conservatives constantly eat our lunches on the local level, and why they tend to scare off folks trying to change things at the local level.

          This is happening all across the country, it’s why many of the more moderate Republicans have resigned or left their party, their districts, and it’s a barrier for Left leaning folks. I believe in Margorie Taylor Greene’s district one of the contenders against her was harassed and threatened to the point of dropping out of the race.

          The Left needs brave people that are ready to lay their lives on the line for what we believe, the stakes are as high as they’ve ever been, and so is the danger, and it’s not like we can count on the authorities to do their jobs to protect us, because they’ve clearly shown that they are either incapable or unwilling, especially the fact that the thin blue line flag now flies in every law enforcement building, and if anything that flag is synonymous with fascism, MAGA, and police protectionism from consequences.

          Joe Biden is not wrong when he says that this election is “a battle for the soul of the nation” because quite obviously it is, and if Trump is elected there will he no progress made politically against this type of stuff anytime soon.

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            The Left needs brave people that are ready to lay their lives on the line for what we believe

            Like refusing to vote for a strike blocking, genocide supporting piece of shit? I’m on it. 🫡

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      Yeah, its weird tos ee how young he looked back then. I never put much thought into that. It didnt feel like it was that long ago.

      It would be great if he could get Steven Colbert and John Oliver to take up their roles as again, too.

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    Just watching the beginning and seeing him scribble on a piece of paper gave me chills. Such a little thing but I’ve never seen anyone else do that, and I guess it just means the Daily Show is about to start!

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    Jon Stewart is such a pro. He’s at the top of his game, even still. He’s just so far above other political commentators it’s beautiful to watch.

    And if Colbert makes an appearance this season I will scream like Flanders at those purple drapes.

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      I think Colbert is happy to be done with that character. Besides, it’s been proven that no matter how ridiculous the character gets, people will still vote for it

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        It doesn’t need to be permanent.

        I’d almost argue that the Colbert Report is more relevant now because it was a satire of Fox News and right wing news has gotten even more crazy than it was 10+ years ago.

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          I’d like to see him come back for an episode and try to play the right-wing pundit satirization, only to keep getting out-crazied by the actual right-wing pundits.

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      The most trusted name in news for basically the entirety of my adult life. He’s absolutely amazing. Shame he’ll never run for office.

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    Free from the shackles of AppleTV. It’s nice to see him back in the seat where I learned about him the first time many many years ago.

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      My hot take is that he’s also much better when given constrained time. The Problem was interesting, but his comedy and commentary is forced to be much more clear and concise on the Daily Show. And when something bombs, the Daily Show doesn’t leave time to wade through a segment that isn’t working.

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        Not a bad take. I agree he’s funnier in the constrained time, but I also liked the The Problem where he had more time for thoughtful discussions, interviews and debates. A lot less funny though.

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    With media screaming in both directions at all times, it’s great to see the supreme satirist spinning it all for us. Welcome back, Jon!

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    It’s great to see him back in the chair. Something about his speech is odd, though. The S’s especially.

    1:38 “Schuperbowl” 2:09 “…Chiefs rost”

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      I found this concerning too, until I watched the beginning again. He was chewing on his lip during the intro, and they might have done a few takes of that shot. He says superbowl perfectly fine at 8:11

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          That makes sense. His teeth look a lot better than they did back in the day, I was wondering why. I mean, does a 50yo man get braces done no matter how much money he has? Would it even work? Probably not.

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                And floss, it’s really not that much work for how much better you feel. Think of it as wiping away the tooth pain before it can sink in.

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          I immediately recognized it as the same thing my dad did for awhile after he got his. Dentures lower the roof of your mouth a bit, so you have to get used to it and your mouth still tries to fall back on muscle memory for awhile, so you get weird sounding S’s.

          I think it’s this.

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            Seems highly unlikely he’d get dentures when implants are a thing now. He’s not so poor that he can’t spend $50k on implants.

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    I’ve seen some complaints about him not going hard enough on Trump and trying to do a false equivalency with Biden being old. I don’t see that. My impression was he was trying to appear impartial at first so when he does go hard on Trump later people won’t question his motives. It’s a marathon not a sprint.

    Also by him saying they are both old he takes that issue off the table when comparing the two. So now it’s not “one has dementia, the other is a fascist”. It becomes “one is not a fascist, and the other is a fascist”.

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      Yeah Jon Stewart, the guy who is famously all about the money lol. Also everyone knows it’s not going to last because all the marketing says he’s a temporary host only on Mondays… What exactly is the point of your post here? You’ve provided no new or interesting information but seem desperate to neg TDS and are failing to do so miserably. This is one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen in a while.

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      A few things probably, because CC surely isn’t throwing money around.

      1. He needed a break

      2. Apple cancelled his other show because he talked shit about some things they didn’t like, effectively censoring him.

      That’s what the opening here was about with the topics he feels free to discuss on TDS. He doesn’t want to be boxed in, and TDS gives him the platform to say what he wants to say, and just doing Mondays is a fair way to get involved again as a creative voice on the show, and let everyone else associated with it get reinvigorated about it as well after months of it being in limbo. I expect the ratings to climb again now that he’s back. The content of this one show speaks for itself. He’s great here.

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        Apple cancelled his other show because he talked shit about some things they didn’t like, effectively censoring him.

        No Apple cancelled his show after he wouldn’t back down about an episode he had planned about China, Apple backed down because they are China’s bitch.

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          You’re talking about now, but your original question was asking why he left in the first place, which I answered for. He took a break, the Apple situation sucked, so now he wants to be involved in the space and this is how. Nothing wrong with that. Listen to his closing, and it seems he’s even addressing that fact.

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          Yeah he doesn’t need a break now or perhaps one day per week is enough … he literally said that he was looking for an outlet for his opinions or whatever on the upcoming election.

          What’s funny or sad is that I saw an interview where they were talking about his influence and Jon was saying that he had little influence because most of the things he didn’t want to happen have happened over his career.

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          Agree with you - I even tried to go see him do standup live after I was gifted tickets. The guy is not funny.

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          One of the many things that turned me off Trevors performance, was that he always sat down before his guests did. Watch John, he’ll always let them sit first, as a sign of respect. Trevor always sat down first.

          I know it’s stupid and small, but to me it spoke volumes.

        • If Trevor Noah was so terrible and the ratings were so bad like you claim, why did CC prolong his contract by 5 years in 2017?

          https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/arts/television/trevor-noah-comedy-central-contract.html

          Mr. Noah’s incarnation of “The Daily Show” drew an average nightly audience of just over 1 million viewers for the week ending Sept. 1, according to Nielsen, well short of the 2 million or more who tuned in for Mr. Stewart’s program by the end of his 16-year tenure.

          But Comedy Central cited other positive trends in its decision to extend Mr. Noah’s contract, including growth among overall viewers, and viewers aged 18 to 49, over the program’s 2016-17 season. The network said that “The Daily Show” was on pace this quarter to become the most-watched daily late-night talk program among millennial viewers (aged 18 to 34).

          Kent Alterman, the president of Comedy Central, said in a phone interview, “We have never had any lack of confidence in Trevor. Quite the opposite, we’ve never wavered in our belief in him, and now what we’re seeing is that the rest of the world has taken notice and expressed the same confidence.”

          Also could it be, that you are a white middle class North American? Because Trevors stand up programs are hilarious. But he is talking about his international experiences, what it means to move abroad and deal with a complex family situation. I understand if that isn’t relateable for many people.

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            I mean if he was amazing then

            Mr. Noah’s incarnation of “The Daily Show” drew an average nightly audience of just over 1 million viewers for the week ending Sept. 1, according to Nielsen, well short of the 2 million or more who tuned in for Mr. Stewart’s program

            You’re saying people didn’t like him because he was black, and spoke of his international experiences. I don’t think so. I watched a lot of his episodes, and the writing just wasn’t there. Additionally, his interviewing skills are subpar. Often interrupting or talking over his guest, right when they’re about to say something interesting.

            • You have a host that people grew accustomed to. Over 16 years. So many people who started watching the show in their teens spent half their lifes with Stewart. And you have a new host who yet has to find his groove. Of course viewership goes down for a while. But that is not an adequate reflection of the overall quality of that host.

              Imagine you start a new work and even after 5 years and a promotion to senior, people say "well in his first months he wasn’t like the old colleague we had for 15 years before that. That is not a probable metric.

              Regarding the international experiences i am referring to his stand up programs. Of course something like “son of Particia” where he talks about his South African mom doesn’t resonate as much with John Miller from Nebraska, like it does with people who lived across continents.

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                Son of Patricia was OK. But it mostly relied on him doing impressions of people he grew up with. It was funny, but in a middling sort of way. It’s lazy joke writing that’s comparable to Larry the Cable Guy or Jeff Dunham.

                Just because he’s black, doesn’t mean that disliking his performance is racist. In fact, it’s racist to suggest it. He’s just not as good as Colbert or Stewart. Not like I hate him, he’s fine. Just not as good at the Daily Show job.

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        Tevor Noah was really good, but he’s not on Stewart’s level, and unfortunately it seemed like all of the pressure and attacks on Noah really started eating at him, I hope Noah finds his groove again and continues to do good, but I’m glad Jon is back, we needed his gravitas for what we’re facing politically this year.