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    Activists don’t need the personal information of people they disagree with. Terrorists do, charge them accordingly.

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      Terrorist-a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aim

      Hmmm… that DOES sound a bit familiar…

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        Terrorism needs target to be an indefinite number of persons.

        If target is one particular person, this is regular crime.

        EDIT: or persons. Serial killers are serial killers, not terrorists.

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      Activists don’t need the personal information of people they disagree with.

      Speak for yourself. If you believe that intelligence work is beneath you, the other side has already won.

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        That is not what they’re saying. They are saying that there’s only one reason anyone would need the name and address of trans children and that is to terrorize them. Even if they say they have a different reason (history shows that they don’t) the one only effect that they could and would have is terror.

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          That is not what they’re saying.

          This is what they said:

          Activists don’t need the personal information of people they disagree with. Terrorists do,

          This is not a case of somebody saying something smart but just wording it terribly. It’s no different than idots who spout “only cowards wear masks!” It’s something only somebody that has no familiarity with actual activism - ie, no familiarity with the actual stakes and risks involved in real activism work - would say.

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            What you are alluding to is no longer activism and should be called what it is, terrorism. You are reframing the issue much as a neo Nazi might.

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              What you are alluding to is no longer activism

              The libs on here are really good at demonstrating that they know absolutely nothing about activism in any shape, way or form whatsoever - but are still willing to feign expertise on the matter.

              I guess heckling antifa from the sidelines back in 2016 gave you lots of practice in that, eh?

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      If Goebbels Junior here got the punishment he deserves, he’d probably become a conservative martyr and rallying point. Which I think would be useful for identifying others in need of re-education.

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      HIPAA seems to be one of the rare laws that actually results in significant damages. Will be interesting to see the size of the fine on this.

      Likely the hospital gets hit as well for allowing him access to medical records on patients he had nothing to do with. Shouldn’t have been possible in the first place.

      This guy’s career is over. I’m sure he’ll do okay financially by selling ivermectin to bigoted dimwits, but I doubt he will be practicing real medicine ever again.

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        Shouldn’t have been possible in the first place.

        I have yet to see a EHR that has access restrictions that would prevent this. Instead it’s just logged and if irregular enough you get to have a hostile conversation that could lead to this.

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        Haim, a Dallas surgeon, previously had done some work at Texas Children’s Hospital as part of his residency. The indictment against Haim alleges that in 2023, he asked to reactivate his login there to access information on pediatric patients not under his care, including names, attending physicians and treatment codes, then turned over the information to a media contact.

        Okay, that’s just dumb. Texas Children’s Hospital is going to get fucked over this. Not only did he not have admitting privileges, he didn’t even fucking remotely work there. This isn’t just a HIPPA violation, it’s straight up fraud.

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          Yeah when I read that I was like, so all I have to do to get medical records is call and ask? Like I don’t even have to have any affiliation apparently.

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            In my experience working hospital IT medical providers can get away with a lot more shit because people try to expedite things for them so they don’t have interruptions caring for patients. The places I worked had processes in place to prevent this sort of thing but I had a fuckload of arguments with various middle managers trying to bypass those when a provider bitched that they didn’t get what they wanted right away.

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                Yeah it sucked. Fortunately I’m pretty much immune to that shit when I have something in writing to back my position. They could call me every name in the book, I’m not giving them what they wanted. After awhile it gets kind of entertaining watching them twist themselves into knots when they just have to do what they’re told. Especially when they tried emailing my superiors and I could hit them with a reply all explaining in simple terms why I didn’t do what they asked and exactly what they needed to do to get it done and have my superiors just be like “yea do that”

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        Correction: his career has changed. He will be taken in as a consultant in some right wing think tank and start shaping the direction of the movement, because he “took action”

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        Nono, his new career as a right wing mouthpiece is just beginning. He’ll be up on stage with MTG and Rittenhouse complaining about cancel culture and how woke has invaded hospitals and how you shouldn’t listen to doctors.

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        Don’t jinx us now… there are plenty of idiots in Washington willing to pay idiots to say the things they want said.

        I’d wager this asshole would be willing to say a lot.

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      Multiple violations, because he released multiple patients’ info. Off the top of my head, I believe it’s up to $250k and 10 years per violation, but the jail time could be served concurrently instead of consecutively.

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      Compromising PII is a hipaa violation, that isn’t taken lightly anywhere. He may not get the full 10 years but he will be slapped for this.

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        Will he loose his licence for this? Because he should. Anyone leaking patient data on purpose should never have access again.

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          Iirc, his license to practice is the decision of the medical board, not the courts.

          I’m not a lawyer, but I think if the courts find him guilty, the courts decide the fine and jail time. But if the medical board finds HIPPA violations, they decide what happens to his medical license.

          He can potentially beat the court charges because many courts have been stacked to be hard-line/alt right wing from Trump’s appointment of judges. But that’s different from the board.

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        What I mean is even if he was facing the death penalty or 1 billion years in prison, he hasn’t paid, has he. The penalty has been added to cart.

        Tangent: I have no faith in the American justice system, much less in any red state’s “justice” system. He’ll get slapped…on the wrist…using some mental gymnastics about whistleblowers or something like that.

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        Yes, they grow their own food and make their own clothes, so after a day of hand picking cotton, you get to rest in your cell with no A/C.

        Not all of them are self suffcient in this way, but it is not easy time at all.

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      At least in this administration.

      Don’t forget to vote in November. I know we all said we aren’t voting for Biden but the realities for project 2025 are beginning to set in.

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        Violate a person’s rights, slap on the wrist. attempt to overthrow the country, slap on the wrist. Tell the country they shouldn’t bomb kids and try to feed them at the same time, added to a terrorist list.

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      I was thinking the other way around. Pretty long for that type of violation, but I haven’t read the article yet. It’s making me think it’s probably data on quite a few patients which would, or at least should, give them a longer sentence.

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    The people that are desperately clinging onto the hope that this is any kind of victory needs a reality check.

    In the extremely unlikely scenario that he actually gets jail time they’ll be high-fiving him all the way in - and you better know that any parole hearing he’s going to get (which will probably be sooner rather than later) will be staffed by people who think exactly the same way he does.

    Hierarchy is the bedrock of reactionary politics - and it doesn’t get any more hierarchical than the (so-called) “justice system.”

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      For finding and eliminating the “vermin” the orange shit stain keeps screaming about.

      So, are all conservatives blood lusting, self centered, self absorbed ass holes?

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      It’s not about the details of care, but the general information on who is transgender and who was providing or was involved in the care.

      With the purpose to “cause malicious harm” as the article says. Which means, they will harass and try to scare involved parties into hiding, leaving or stopping to provide care.

      This Conservative activist already published the information to discredit the children’s hospital, create a scandal on how they are harming children with the goal that the hospital will stop providing care in fear of bad press.

      Their goal is to scare every trans person back deep into the closet (or to leave) and to scare all possible care out of existence, even when legal.

      The basic motive is HATE. Plain and simple. Hate of that what is different and the need to control the people around them to live by their beliefs and moral standards.

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        Thank for taking the time to lay that out for me. I am unable to comprehend the motives, but that at least starts to explain it. Unthinkable.

        Dude forgot his hippocratic oath.

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          Doctors tend to not take that oath any longer. Too much of what they do constitutes ‘doing harm’, seriously.

          “Some say that the oath is irrelevant in modern medical practice because it does not address ethical issues that are relevant today.”

          Editing to clear this up: I mean insurance companies stopping them from helping their patients and not giving them enough time to accurately diagnose their patients. Just to be clear I’m not talking about gender affirming care or abortion.

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      It was purely ideological. He claims to be a whistleblower, but he’s just a bigoted asshole that has no business working in medicine.

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        I still don’t get it though, how does having medical information do anything for his ‘ideology’? Dude committed a felony.

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          You clearly don’t. Reading the article before asking questions about the article might help.

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            It just says he passed it on to conversative activists, I still cannot begin to understand how this furthers a conservative agenda? The hospital wasn’t doing anything illegal and now he’s looking at a 10 year prison sentence. He committed a felony, threw away his entire career and he didn’t even ‘own the libs’.

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              It just says he passed it on to conversative activists, I still cannot begin to understand how this furthers a conservative agenda?

              Dude… Come on… 🤦‍♂️

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                Could you spell it out for me? Genuinely drawing a blank here.

                Edit: No need, some kind user came through. Horrifying.

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                  Step 1. Right wing anti-trans doctor steals medical records proving the hospital was providing gender-affirming therapies for trans kids despite publicly saying they would stop doing so (Though it was still legal to do so in Texas at the time).

                  Step 2. Right wing anti-trans doctor gives stolen medical records proving the hospital was providing gender-affirming therapies for trans kids to anti-trans conservative activist.

                  Step 3. Anti-trans conservative activist uses right wing anti-trans doctor’s stolen medical records to cause malicious harm to the patients, their families, doctors, and the hospital.

                  How on earth are you struggling to understand that this furthers the conservative agenda?