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        I think any teacher worth their salt can teach English and draw the parallels between modern vernacular. I would like to believe teachers can do both.

        I’d even go so far as to call teachers who refuse to adapt to the change in “slang” lazy.

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          It’s not about adapting to change. It’s just as valid to tell a kid they can’t use “good” and “bad” in whatever they’re writing or discussing. The adaptation is understanding that those slang words essentially amount to the same things because that’s how kid’s slang works. You’re not conveying any rich meaning by repeating sigma over and over for whatever you think is good and mid for bad.

          On that list the only complex idea is mewing, but the fact that it’s complex means the kids who didn’t understand its complexity have stripped it out. That’s because it’s not, in of itself, an actual slang term.

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            I disagree, I think the slang does convey rich meaning to the correct informal audience.

            I would like to believe the slang is important code for another demographic that people can switch to.

            As crazy as it may sound, I think depriving or deminishing the slang creates a divide culturally.

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              You’re mixing up kids slang with code switching. I don’t find them to be equivalent at all. That’s the greater point I was making. We use the word slang pretty broadly, but in kids it’s quite shallow. They rely heavily on context because they don’t really have the vocabulary to do otherwise.

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    This seems like a joke from some Michigan school teacher … similar to how a lot of Ohio State football fans say *ichigan and things

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              Really? “All that and a bag of chips” followed by snapping your fingers 3 times in the shape of a Z seems like something a sane person would say?

              or “bout it bout it rowdy rowdy”?

              or “salty” or “scrubs” when not refering to sodium or doctors medical attire.

              Our slang, just like every generations slang, was the worst.

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                All that and a bag of chips

                I remember that being said … a handful of times

                followed by snapping your fingers 3 times in the shape of a Z seems like something a sane person would say?

                and I barely remember that… certainly I don’t remember it tied to the former.

                or “bout it bout it rowdy rowdy”?

                0 recollection of that

                or “salty” or “scrubs” when not refering to sodium or doctors medical attire.

                Fair.

                Our slang, just like every generations slang, was the worst.

                I was informed by a friend I’m actually thinking of gen alpha slang (and blaming Gen Z) with stuff like … https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Skibidi Toilet

                I guess it’s just a matter of what’s “normal” with folks around you, particular as a kid. I certainly wasn’t in a slang heavy group of kids in general. We texted with (near) proper grammar and full sentences and also found the “r u k? bb” kind of stuff pretty cringe-worthy.

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                  Oh, then you’re not a millennial. We didn’t HAVE texting in 1995. You sound like you’re talking about mid 2000s. By then I was in my mid-20s. So not exactly the time period where it was “my time” for new slang.

                  My grandfathers generation called money “bacon”. As in, he brought home the bacon. My dads genneration called money Chedder. My generation called it lettice. Around 2010 I heard people calling it bread. I’m convinced they’re making a sandwich! It’s going to be turkey, or ham next. Maybe some capicola. Just as long as it’s not mayonaise. I don’t want mayonaise on my sandwich.

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            Except it’s not… Ohio has Cedar Point, Kings Island, several well recognized museums, lakes, large state parks and a national park, hiking trails, bike trails, kayaking, just as diverse of a food culture as any other state in the big cities, 3 large metro areas, stadiums, concert halls, etc

            The worst thing about Ohio for years has been the Republicans in the state house and this craziness that it’s somehow a boring state. If you can’t find things to do in Ohio, you haven’t tried.

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      I think you underestimate the increase in the difficulty of teachers jobs in the last 5 years. They’ve lost a lot of their ability to even teach due to internet parenting and brain rot.

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        Brain rot has ALWAYS been a thing. Don’t blame the internet for that! We’re the same species that convinced ourselves that a magical man in the sky is looking over everyone, at all times, and making sure there’s a grand plan in place. Nothing happens without reason, and it’s all his devine plan…but also, we have child rapists, murderers, animal abusers, wife beaters, nuclear weapons, war, disease, famine, the list goes on. Every horrific tragic thing that’s ever happened was always meant to happen, because it’s all part of the plan.

        Come on. You don’t think there’s shitloads of people with brain rot going on, dating back centuries? Millenias even?

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    Apparently these rules exist in my house also. Just today, my Gen Z kid forbade me from ever saying rizz or Ohio again. Luckily, I don’t live near Ohio, so I don’t need these words for any functional purpose. In particular, she told me that Ohio has been over for, like, a year and I’m out of date on slang.

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      What I always love about it is that it’s only outv of date in her age group social circles and it was out of date when she was using it too.

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    Banning slang is just gonna lead to the invention of new and more annoying slang. This is exactly how we got in this situation.

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    My mom works in a school with 1st through 5th graders. She messages me like twice a week for me to explain slang to her so she can know if she needs to explain to a child that it’s wrong to say. I’ve learned so much new slang.

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    Like in Monty Python, the list of banned words:

    B#M
    B#TTY
    P#X
    KN#CKERS
    KN#CKERS
    W##-W##
    SEMPRINI

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    To the left of this there’s a different list, “use more of these”

    • DEI hire
    • woke

    Edit: This is a (poor) attempt on a sarcastic take, because when a teacher starts banning words like that, the next thought would be if they have a positive list?

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        I think he was implying that the same people who would want a list like this banning words like these would support enforcing the use of the above terms

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          Gotcha. I think I can see that now. But it was a bit of a stretch for me. lol

          Normally the people that use “DEI hire” or “woke” are making “fun” of people that use those terms and using it ironically or incorrectly but I guess I can see how ppl can think those terms have been accepted as positive to say on the right and negative on the left (tho I dont fully agree, I still use woke like I did 5 or so yrs ago even if it confuses some ppl)

          Glad I held back on all the other stuff I wanted to say 😅 I definitely need to work on asking people what they mean first. It’s crazy how I didn’t think there was any other way of looking at this one. lol

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    Having lived in Ohio for 30 years, its honestly not that bad I dont understand the hate? I’ve been to most surrounding states and I feel like its better than Indiana, Michigan, and Kentucky. I havent been to Pennsylvania yet though.

    Ok I’ll just say it, I stan Ohio. Haters gonna hate.

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      No way you’re better than Michigan…lmfao. what are u smoking cuz it’s not that legal weed.

      Ohio fucking sucks.

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        I’ve been to well over 30 states (it’s been a while since I got an official count) and stayed in some for nearly a year

        I read somewhere that Ohio is like the US on default and I agree! It has a some of everything. It has lakes, coastline and rivers. Suburbs and cities. Factories, forests, and farms. All four seasons but they aren’t known for being extreme. No crazy natural disasters like hurricanes, fires or earthquakes. Even politically we’re balanced enough to be a swing state. A flag that’s more recognizable than plain blue with a hard to see logo in the center.

        Ohio might be mid, but that isn’t always a bad thing

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      Having lived in Ohio for 30 years, its honestly not that bad I dont understand the hate?

      True: it is honestly not that bad that you don’t understand the hate. Hate isn’t a good thing to understand.

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      I don’t know why people act like it’s bad to like a certain area. I enjoy it here. If people don’t, that’s fine. If they want to live somewhere else then I hope they can move to that place.

      Whenever someone says state X is better than state Y, they’re saying X has things about it that they prefer. Once again this is fine, but there is no objective standard that one state is better than another (just like with countries – “America is the greatest country in the world” is extremely cringe).

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          Charleston is legitimately the only redeeming part of the US South between Richmond and New Orleans though. Atlanta is… Just OK.