• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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    For those who haven’t heard, yes, there was another school shooting, this time a highschool in Georgia (United States, obviously). 2 students and 2 teachers were killed, nine people injured, and the suspect is in custody. (How they’re not dead is beyond me)

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      I’ve gotten so used to school shootings that I see one like that and think “hooray, only four deaths!”

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        Unfortunately it did work out better than others, and yet two teachers and two 14 year old children were killed.

        The FBI had been out to see the 14yr old who murdered classmates and teachers. Spoken with his parents, and him. He denied everything, no probable cause, so they put the schools on alert, and that made for a quicker response.

        Which means this went really well by comparison to other school shootings, and yet it clearly wasn’t good enough - two 14 year old students and two teachera died.

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          The FBI had been out to see the 14yr old who murdered classmates and teachers. Spoken with his parents, and him. He denied everything, no probable cause, so they put the schools on alert, and that made for a quicker response.

          Oh, so we knew this kid was a problem but we didn’t actually do anything but tell the school to be ready to get shot up.

          What a fucking stupid country.

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            They also went to the kids house and investigated, but they didn’t have proof of anything that would meet any criteria for arrest, yeah.

            So they discussed with the parents, discussed with the school, discussed with the police, etc. I can’t say I blame the FBI here for what they were able to do based on anonymous reports about comments made online. I wouldn’t feel comfortable with giving any federal agency just free reign to arrest on anonymous reports alone, that’s just opening a new form of swatting to me.

            But clearly, its not enough, and that’s the issue. For example, restricting the access to guns would have been good. Restricting access on a larger scale would be better.

            Instead… We have two teachers and two 14yr old kids dead.

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              The school could have suspended him after hearing he was investigated by the FBI. I wonder if the school even told any of the parents about this. I’d be furious if the school knew this kid was a threat and did nothing to keep him away from other students.

              I gotta stop talking about this and find some funny memes because my kid is currently at a high school now, and could be the next victim, and not having any power or knowledge about someone shooting them fills me with rage and frustration.

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                Not really - same problem, no proof it was him that posted. The kid having access to guns after being seen as a person who might do this, that’s the problem.

                The parents doing functionally nothing is a problem.

                The total lack of any change from this is also a problem.

                My kids are younger, but unfortunately that just means more years of worry at this point, because nothing is changing.

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                  The problem is that the administrators are too busy following the rules to deal with anything, from bullying to shootings. I bet they’d let a baby die in a hot car because it’s against the rules to break the window.

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                    I think you’re underestimating how many times the FBI (police, whomever) go out and speak with someone. There will be a lot of kids who did nothing wrong, who have not planned to do anything wrong, which would be suspended or otherwise “handled”.

                    That’s not good either. Especially when the issue is quite obviously guns and complete lack of laws around them in GA.

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        4 victims is the minimum for it to count as a “mass shooting” by the FBI, which seems like both too many and not enough at the same time.

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        Yeah I was watching something on TV and they cut to a special news report to cover this. I was shocked. Isn’t there a school shooting pretty much every day now? Why did this warrant cutting into valuable day time TV programming? So I’m watching this breaking news wondering what’s so special about this particular shooting that can’t wait until the nightly news at 10:00, and the local police chief is giving a press conference breaking down in tears about how he never thought he would have to handle a school shooting and I’m like has your dimbass been paying attention to anything that’s been going on in this country for the last few decades? I would expect you to have a manual on your desk with procedures on how to handle this. Instead this yokel is rambling on about good and evil. I just smh.

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        Once people think it’s normal then that becomes a culture. That is even harder to remove.

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      As non American I wonder. There was a crime committed, police couldn’t do anything to prevent it, it’s not the first or the tenth such crime, obviously it will happen again. Will anyone do something about it? Or the government(the entity made to prevent such things) answer is just “till next time boys”?

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        Many of us have the same question. Typically, when these questions are bought to our elected officials, we get something along the lines of “Thoughts and prayers.”