Can I cultivate live food in the same tank as my Endler guppy? (I plan on adding other fish in the future). I have read that it is not smart to grow daphnia as they reproduce very quickly and outcompete for oxygen.

So is it possible to breed live food in the same tank to create some kind of biome, maybe with some other species? (Monia, fairy shrimp, Rotifer Brachionus)

  • spinnetrouble@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Cultivating live food for your fish friends is a great idea! Research, trial, and error are going to be really important in the process, so it’s better to do it in a separate tank to keep your fish safe. We don’t have the ability to bring an entire complex ecosystem into our homes and put it in a glass box; the best we can do is mimic one as best as possible. This means that an experimental tank won’t have as many of the same “redundancies” nature does when nutrient, light, or oxygen/dissolved gases get out of balance, and population crashes can happen a lot more easily. (Even if it’s just the food creatures that die off, the decaying matter can cause problems like ammonia burns for your fish.) Rather than trying to establish a sustainable colony of food animals in your fish tank, starting a tank with food animals and slowly adding fish to it will give you a much clearer picture of how large a population they can sustain.

    Some tips to help you build as robust a system as you can:

    • Use a 10 gallon (about 40 liters) or larger tank. Greater water volume means increased stability because the water dilutes concentrations of things like ammonia and gives you a nice buffer for environmental changes; a 5 gallon (about 20 liters) tank will have much narrower safety margins and will make it harder to figure out where the problems lie.
    • Add a lot of plants, both in number and variety, to improve oxygenation and reduce carbon dioxide in the water. They’ll also provide food and grazing surfaces for a lot of smaller food animals.
    • Use a canister filter or AquaClear-style hang-on-back (HOB) filter that gives you a lot more filter medium for housing the microbes that process nitrogenous wastes like ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate than a single, fiber-covered plastic cartridge. Don’t run charcoal or activated carbon in it unless you’re finishing up a round of disease treatment–it’ll pull out a lot of the stuff the tank’s plants and animals can use. Canisters and HOB filters will also give you better gas exchange than an undergravel or sponge filter will.
    • Tank barriers are easy to make out of plastic mesh used for crafts like needlepoint. I think the holes would be big enough for most food animals to swim through, but not allow fish in their area, but I’m not sure.

    This sounds like a really cool project. If you decide to do it, I hope you’ll post updates!

    • heartbreaker@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      22 days ago

      I ended up adding 10 cherry shrimp with plants they can hide in. When shrimp reproduce, they go for the quantity strategy, so they have a lot of babies in the hope that some survive. Some of these babies get eaten by the fish. A nice bonus is that the shrimp eat food leftovers and algae.

      As for creating stability, I do daily 10% water changes, as I don’t have room for a large filter. Something more complex will require a larger tank.