While i believe they would have the resources to do this technically, i think voter suppression from the right, the failures in the biden/harris whitehouse, and plane old racism/misogyny is a rather solid argument.
The lack of leaks from these absolute colanders is really hard to believe.
plain old racism/misogyny is a rather solid argument.
No, this is just another copium. Not to imply that racism/misogyny don’t exist, because they absolutely do. But that’s not why Harris lost both the electoral and popular votes by such wide margins. The DNC has endless amounts of quality data on how racist and misogynistic Americans are. If they knew that a nonwhite woman would lose then they wouldn’t have run one in the first place.
The Democrats fail because they’ve embraced grinding neoliberalism for an entire generation, because they abandoned the working class long ago. The DNC crushed Sanders—twice—because even a little social safety net, as a treat, is a bridge too far for them.
Democrats would rather lose—to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump—than […] address the material conditions of the American people.
I’m seeing a lot of copium coming from people on the left/progressives, that are like, “you know what guys, we really gotta […]
push the Democratic party left.” It’s not going to happen. The Democratic party will not be pushed left. They tried. We tried. It failed. Just go back in recent history, and look at how, at every chance that the Democrats or progressives tried to push the Democratic party left, they were crushed. …
They hate anyone left of center. The Democratic party is a corporate interest, billionaire elite party that only pretends to sometimes pander a little bit to the left when they want to get your votes, and even then they’re not even really trying that hard: they’ve pretty much made clear that they hate you.
It would probably need a lot of internal cooperation, and he just doesn’t go into that. But the excessive bullet ballots only being in swing states is pretty weird, honestly. I wonder how hard it would be to recount/reverify in maybe 2 states as a pilot.
There’s also the issue that Harris and the Democrats spent the last four years repudiating the idea that there was anything insecure about our elections systems, and being the big-tent party that favors process over outcome and desperately clings to democratic norms and the status quo, it seems to me that she’d likely be very loathe to call them into question now.
And even if she were so inclined, she already conceded (and pretty quickly, at that). Does she even have standing to demand a recount now? And even if she should still have standing, would SCOTUS agree?
FWIW, personally, these statistical anomalies seem compelling enough to me that I agree we should go ahead and double-check. I’m not holding out much hope that it will happen, though.
I don’t know. When Republicans tell you they are going to rig the system for years. When Republicans take action to rig the system for years. It seems like it’s pretty plausible. Now whether or not it would ultimately change the outcome. That’s a good question and no one should get their hopes up. But Democrats absolutely should be investigating this.
I hate to say it, but this seems like copium. I’d love to be wrong about that.
Same.
While i believe they would have the resources to do this technically, i think voter suppression from the right, the failures in the biden/harris whitehouse, and plane old racism/misogyny is a rather solid argument.
The lack of leaks from these absolute colanders is really hard to believe.
No, this is just another copium. Not to imply that racism/misogyny don’t exist, because they absolutely do. But that’s not why Harris lost both the electoral and popular votes by such wide margins. The DNC has endless amounts of quality data on how racist and misogynistic Americans are. If they knew that a nonwhite woman would lose then they wouldn’t have run one in the first place.
The Democrats fail because they’ve embraced grinding neoliberalism for an entire generation, because they abandoned the working class long ago. The DNC crushed Sanders—twice—because even a little social safety net, as a treat, is a bridge too far for them.
Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
Pretty much agreed. Also the mysogyny thing was part of a list and not the emphasis.
It would probably need a lot of internal cooperation, and he just doesn’t go into that. But the excessive bullet ballots only being in swing states is pretty weird, honestly. I wonder how hard it would be to recount/reverify in maybe 2 states as a pilot.
I dont think itd be hard, just costs money
Well good thing they have massive reserves now
There’s also the issue that Harris and the Democrats spent the last four years repudiating the idea that there was anything insecure about our elections systems, and being the big-tent party that favors process over outcome and desperately clings to democratic norms and the status quo, it seems to me that she’d likely be very loathe to call them into question now.
And even if she were so inclined, she already conceded (and pretty quickly, at that). Does she even have standing to demand a recount now? And even if she should still have standing, would SCOTUS agree?
FWIW, personally, these statistical anomalies seem compelling enough to me that I agree we should go ahead and double-check. I’m not holding out much hope that it will happen, though.
I don’t know. When Republicans tell you they are going to rig the system for years. When Republicans take action to rig the system for years. It seems like it’s pretty plausible. Now whether or not it would ultimately change the outcome. That’s a good question and no one should get their hopes up. But Democrats absolutely should be investigating this.
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