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Oh yeah it hasn’t been added to the constitution yet despite it being a thing proposed in the 1970’s. There’s a chance our next president here is going to undo one of the meager concessions obtained by the civil rights movement and spit on it’s legacy

Edit: Pls join protests and stuff, there was a march last week to try and pressure him into getting it included in the constitution but it’s been basically erased from media

ERA coalition website

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    28·
    6 days ago

    You leftists are faaaaar too demanding of Biben! Think for just a second about what he’d have to do to enshrine equal rights: he’d have to sign the document. With a pen. With his name. The motherfucker couldn’t draw a clock right now; how’s he supposed to write?!

  • iridaniotter [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    28·
    6 days ago

    > An amendment becomes an operative part of the Constitution when it is ratified by the necessary number of states, rather than on the later date when its ratification is certified.

    Wait Joe Biden doesn’t need to do anything. The Amendment already exists in a superposition of ratified and non-ratified; there just haven’t been any legal challenges to test its existence in the eyes of the reactionary courts. What the fuck.

    • SocialistDovahkiin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      47·
      6 days ago

      It did happen, in 2020 while Trump was president. Virginia was the 38th state to ratify it. It’s been three years and the administration has not added it to the constitution despite it meeting the requirements

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        48·
        6 days ago

        Oh, didn’t know. The fact that it’s not automatically added to the Constitution after getting enough states to ratify it is some real great democracy. Of course we need the ghoul in charge to let us have the thing we approved.

        • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          24·
          6 days ago

          There’s a bit of constitutional debate over whether it meets the requirements, because some states alleged their ratifications could expire or be repealed, and obviously the libs will just side with the conservatives, just like the constitutional debate about Trump being ineligible for office due to the “insurrection” according to 14th Amendment

        • SocialistDovahkiin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          17·
          6 days ago

          And as someone else mentioned there was a time limit that the archivist is hem-hawing over too. It’s kind of just a bullshit thing though that Dems are respecting because of “law and order”

  • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    6 days ago

    Not really. The ERA not being passed is not a personnel issue, rather it is a systemic one. This website for whatever reason seems to love great man theory for heads of state and ignores backing and other parties involved. The president has no role in amending the condition and he has no power de jure on this front. You could argue that he could marshal congress to pass this, but the current iteration of US politics is explicitly designed to avoid any sort of large majority block to protect capital. The president is not the one steering the ship, he is just a figurehead for capital.

    • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      13·
      6 days ago

      The president is not the one steering the ship, [gender] is just a figurehead for capital.

      Normally, yes, but there are specific measures Biden could have done (obviously with the compliance of individuals in his party and administration).

      Biden could have, at any time, directed the archivist to certify it, making an official statement that his DOJ believes states cannot rescind ratifications, if he wanted.

      Earlier, when Democrats had control of both houses of Congress in the 117th (instead of waiting until they lost the House), his administration could have followed in the steps of the very belatedly ratified 27th Amendment and also made it a policy point to ask Congress to pass concurrent resolutions declaring that the amendment was validly ratified.

    • SocialistDovahkiin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      25·
      6 days ago

      the “liberal” in me is angry that democrats have been campaigning as the lesser evil for 12 fucking years and won’t do the bare fucking minimum to stop the minorities they hold hostage from being killed and enslaved

      the communist in me is angry that anyone on this website would even consider this a good thing, because the amendment is currently the only time-reasonable way to try and prevent there from being neurodivergent labor camps and mass deportations

      both sides of me are the communist, actually. we need to start banning this weird Hitlerite minimization shit. Elon “Most Divorced Trans Hater” Musk, RFK “Brain Worm” JR, and JD “I Love Murder Actually” Vance are going to be in office in a position of power and they don’t even have the ghoulish apathy of your average war criminal dem to stop them from killing as many people as they can. They want to kill more people than are being killed now. They WANT the working class to suffer, not because they love to exploit it as is usually the case (though they likely do as well), but because they genuinely believe the majority of the working class is subhuman and should be eradicated. These aren’t the usual kind of hollow ghoul we’ve seen. They have principles and their principles are absolutely monsterous.

      To be clear, I do think the Dems are probably similar at this point, if not since the beginning. I think they just hide it. There’s no other reason I can think of for why Biden why refuse to do such a simple thing that would vastly increase the approval of him and his party.

    • gueybana [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      6 days ago

      The accelerationist in me disagrees, because it’s long past time to stop legitimizing a constitution that expressly permits slavery and weights some people’s voices more than others

      What in the palor are you fucking talking about? Are you ok?

      • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        10·
        6 days ago

        I’m sorry. That comment was very poorly worded of me, and I have deleted it. After rereading it, it’s appalling to me that it got any upbears.

        To be clear, I do agree is no excuse for Biden not having even feigned an attempt to get the ERA certified. I vehemently believe that everyone deserves equal rights, and in a just world, it would have already been in the document in the first place.

        The accelerationist position I was very badly attempting to state was basically along the lines that while Trump’s policies are objectively bad both at home for Americans and abroad for everyone else, especially for marginalized groups, they might possibly hasten the demise of the US.

        Death to America is my actual take — accelerationism is not. Honestly, I don’t think I really had a right to speak on this in the first place, and I sincerely apologize for my poor choice in doing so.

  • HarryLime [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    10·
    6 days ago

    I don’t think this is true? The ERA hasn’t been passed because the required number of states failed to ratify it before the time limit ran out.