• self@awful.systems
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      15 hours ago

      @Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world, about this

      the moderation principles you vehemently disagree with are principles we’ve built our communities on, and you’ve been posting with us long enough to know that.

      if the trans community in Ukraine don’t face certain forms of bigotry that trans people do in the west, that’s lovely! where I’m from, trans people are facing a rapidly increasing amount of systemic bigotry and danger, and maintaining a space where they can communicate without fuckheads getting in the way is a top priority.

      when I read this:

      You don’t know whether trans folk in non-english speaking countries are in 100% alignment with you on this issue.

      I will admit I don’t either. But unlike you I do have some exposure to our local LGBT community and to me this comes off as almost orientalist.

      I don’t see someone trying to reach a mutual understanding. I see someone who saw an opportunity to shout down a trans poster with a bunch of debatefan horseshit and took it, and I don’t think I want that kind of person on our instance. I don’t care that this was posted elsewhere — this is about who you are.

      what I’d like to see is that you can exist as a positive part of an explicitly trans-friendly community. I can’t ask your local LGBT community about it, and in any case we’re talking about online communities here — so show me you can positively contribute to an online trans community. that should be easy enough, since you’ve got some pretty heavy opinions regarding how online trans-inclusive communities should be run.

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        13 hours ago

        Excuse me? What did my comments have to do with issue you brought up? And why did you remove my comment?

        I stand by what I said in the thread from 5 months. Provincialism and orientalism can be demonstrated by anyone, including trans people.

        There was no shutting down of anyone. It was a good faith discussion. Not everything you disagree with is “debatefan horeshit”. How many languages can you speak? Have you lived in any other countries? Do you have any kind of exposure to non-english speaking LGBT communities?

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          13 hours ago

          It was a good faith discussion. Not everything you disagree with is “debatefan horeshit”. How many languages can you speak? Have you lived in any other countries? Do you have any kind of exposure to non-english speaking LGBT communities?

          ahahahaha my god, thanks for making the next part easy

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            13 hours ago

            “if you’re so inclusive name every lgbt” is real and I can’t believe it

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      5 days ago

      MS Research publish all sortsa shit that might not go down well with the company, but they do hire some seriously smart people so keeping 'em sweet is better than having them jump to Google