“I hate these damn bike lanes. Screw your studies. I’m not reading that”

"Cut gas taxes. I see no reason why I should pay to support public transit"

“Fuck speed limits. I’m proud to break the law”

This sense of entitlement is insane.

  • WiredBrain@lemmy.ca
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    Instead of hoping people will feel a particular way, would it not be easier to get people to drive safer using measues that directly cause them to drive more safely, irrespective of their feelings in the moment?

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      It may be a matter of opinion, but if a driver doesn’t have the ability to drive safely (i.e. defensively, with concern for others, etc.) without the use of the guardrails (no pun intended), then they really shouldn’t be driving.

      Driving is a skill. If it requires “hacks” or mind games, then we’re doing something terribly wrong.

      Some countries that have implemented safe street design also have drivers who know their place on the road.

      Safe street design won’t have the same effect in countries where drivers feel entitled and for which their behaviour has no consequences.

      For example, we have stop signs and red lights. Everybody who drives should know what they mean.

      But we have the majority of drivers rolling through stop signs, and quite a few ignoring red lights. You can’t really design this stupidity out. Roundabouts are not an answer when the attitude of entitlement still exists. We are just shifting the bad behaviours to another part of the road.

      And in particular Ontario, where our government would rather build wider roads with fewer safety implements, makes this challenge even more difficult. Drivers need to change their behaviour, and need to, well before we make the roads “safe by design”.

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        By all means: be an advocate for safer driving. Just know that this kind of advocacy been the dominant strategy for decades and the research says it doesn’t work, or at least not as well as roads engineered to be safe. Have a look at the work by Strong Towns for more information, if you’re interested.

        I know there’s nothing I can say in this moment that will change your mind, as were just typing to eachother on the internet. I’m just an advocate for this because I believe it has the potential to fix huge portions of Canada and Noth America generally, without a strictly left/right partisan stance.

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          For sure. Don’t mistake what I wrote (my ideal) vs. my IRL advocacy (i.e. working with my municipality, region, and cycling advocacy groups to get safe road designs implemented).

          I know I can’t change how people behave behind the wheel, any more than you can change American gun culture. The best we can do is design safer roads by design… those figurative guardrails… and encourage people to do better in the meantime.

          We do still need automated enforcement, and more police enforcement, because people going excessive speeds or burning through red lights can, and do, kill other people. Plus, we need more revenue to build safer infrastructure 😀