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cm0002@piefed.world to Privacy@programming.devEnglish · 8 days ago

Thunderbird Shares New Details on Upcoming Pro Features (Thundermail's servers to be located in Germany! 🇩🇪)

www.omgubuntu.co.uk

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Thunderbird Shares New Details on Upcoming Pro Features (Thundermail's servers to be located in Germany! 🇩🇪)

www.omgubuntu.co.uk

cm0002@piefed.world to Privacy@programming.devEnglish · 8 days ago
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Thunderbird Shares New Details on Upcoming Pro Features
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Thunderbird Pro will offer Thundermail email service, appointment scheduling, file sharing, and maybe even AI features. Email will be hosted on German servers.
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  • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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    Who would be able to access my emails at rest?

    If the answer isn’t abso-fucking-lutely no one, I’m not interested.

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      How would that work? Their mail server still has to receive emails on your behalf.

      Unless you mean whether they plan to sell data, which I agree they should absolutely not.

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        In transit, it’s impossible to get them all, though it should support PGP to anyone else that has it.

        At rest, it should all be locked down so only I can access, they may have to store some messages temporarily until I connect to provide the encryption, but everything else better be completely inaccessible.

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        Emails could be end to end encrypted, so the mail server wouldnt be able to see the emails. Basicslly PGP but out-of-the-box

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          The problem is that basically no one uses PGP. Adoption would be hard

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            But there are workarounds like the one Infomaniak uses (I believe Proton does it too). When sending an encrypted email to a non encrypted user, a link is sent instead of the contents of the email instead. In any case, encryption at rest with user provided keys and things like that are always an option.

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              If the encryption at rest is done by the server, that defeats the point.

              Also, how does the user receiving an encrypted email access it? Do they have to enter a password? How is the password transmitted to them?

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      Germany has become kind of a safe haven for a lot of Open Source projects. What’s so bad about it?

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        • passepartout@feddit.org
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          Kind of. But hopefully at a slower rate / more reversible manner than the rest of the world.

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          • IceFoxX@lemmy.world
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            No. Remember Merkel with “Internet ist Neuland”… that was about this shit. As a german i say… you cant trust germany

        • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          returning*

          Fuckers can’t be trusted.

        • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          “Turning into”? That sounds like the 2000s, eons ago in internet terms.

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        Yeah, I thought Germany was OK. That’s why I went with Mailbox.org. i would also like to hear about the “yikes”.

      • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Basically they never stopped being nazis.

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    Subscribers to Thunderbird Pro users get 500GB of storage space

    That’s big enough to do disk backups in the mailbox.

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    I’d prefer exchange support first.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      probably never gonna happen

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        Actually they are working on it, albeit slowly, it seems. Fingers crossed and in the meantime there is davmail.

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          oh well fuck me, this is mindblowing news. microsoft has always been so precious about the exchange protocol i just assumed that’s the way it would always be

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            Their blog has regular updates regarding Exchange support, if you’re interested.

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              Yep. I even read somewhere that it should be possible (beta, at your risk) to enable it in the latest stable version, but wasn’t unable to find the option and the info is really scarce.

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    I just like the idea that it’s using stalwart as the collaboration server (mail/calendar/contacts) [1].

    I host my own personal mail server with it and have had no issues so far.

    [1] https://stalw.art/

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