What should I do now lol
One thing I’ve noticed: if you land on Google from search around 20% of comments are from now deleted accounts. Try searching “best bike reddit” and see for yourself.
I think the hypothesis that power users are leaving is showing itself to be true.
Was trying to figure out why imgur just always seems broken now (it’s because of my VPN) and as I scrolled past all the reddit results like 1/3 of the answers had been deleted. It brought a tear to this former lurkers eye.
I just tried to find one of my very popular, but deleted help comments on r/synology via Google but couldn’t find it.
What I did find heartening is that they’ve flagged the sub as NSFW so I can’t view anything unless logging in (which I can’t do because my account is gone). Also, r/plex is set to private so that’s useless too.
chefs kiss.
Respect to r/Synology and r/plex! I loved those subs
Imgur went through a purge recently of uploads not associated with accounts. They also stated they would be purging NSFW content.
You may want to use something like libredirect to access rimgo, an alternative front-end for imgur; although it must be said that public instances are often limited.
I’ve taken your suggestion and although it didn’t do a whole lot for my Imgur problem, in general I like whats all going on with it. Thanks for the advice. It may not have been the outcome I wanted, yet it still feels like a small victory.
I just used power delete suite on my 13 year old account this morning. Every comment and post is gone.
check back in few days, lot of people are reporting their deleted comments were restored
PowerDeleteSuite doesn’t get everything, particularly on old accounts. PDS uses your New, Hot, Top & Controversial lists on your profile - however reddit has been limiting the length of these lists for a few months now.
For example, if you have a link to one of your older Top comments, you might see a bunch of low karma replies underneath that PDS didn’t touch.
The only real way to get everything is to do a GDPR request and use the links in there. Shreddit can do this (in particular the github version, the website charges $15 for the feature), however even then it will panic and stop part way through. I’ve had to edit the files and split them down, and even then I haven’t yet finished. Shreddit uses the API though, so it won’t work after 1 July.
Also reddit have been restoring some comments evert couple days - you might find some that PDS removed have returned. Supposedly this is to do with how reddit’s CDN structure works, but that may also just be an excuse. I wouldn’t be surprised if reddit tries to claim ownership of everyone’s comments and restores most if not all of them, so those google searches might start working again.
I’m waiting to do it because I want to leave no trace, and any closed subs are unable to have comments changed. Also, waiting til the last minute because I’m not trying to dead mod one of my subs; I hate Reddit, buts it’s a smallish sub (30k) and I don’t want to just leave it. Only two of the five mods are active, and he’s thinking of leaving as well, so I guess we’re gonna have to mod search?? At least get one person in and then dip.
That’s the problem. Really you should do what you can to sabotage it and get the users over onto the fed. X
I agree. It’s just hard to do that to people I’ve been in a community with for 10+ years. Reddit won’t even notice that sub getting deaded, but the users will. The only nodding we had to do was repost bots and very rare racist stuff (really not even relevant to anything either lol)
Looks normal to me. This phenomena though is perhaps the saddest part of the whole thing. It’ll take years to build up a similar amount of excellent info.
Who burned the modern Library of Alexandria? u/spez, and fuck him for it.
Just open the cached copy of the page when googling for reddit results
I had a post saved for ultimate watch order for clone wars. But the user is no more. :(
Curious how the new results are affecting Reddit overall. I don’t know how Google works these days, I got away from figuring out that stuff for websites long ago. Would a hit to a private page and the user backing out only affect that link’s rating, or is there a bigger picture of the algorithm that would see a spike in low Reddit results and start reranking the domain itself?
Can confirm. I’ve been doing a lot of technical setup lately. Hardware, and niche software. Any issue I had or comparison of online services I looked for Reddit was the top result and of course I would click it because I’m burnt out and just want an answer. I’ll say about a fourth of the comments on the comparison/help posts are now deleted or edited to make a statement about Reddit. Everynow and again it’d be a private sub. It was super wild. Luckily google has a cached version to view the sub in those cases.
I don’t think Lemmy will ever be able to replicate that utility though. There can’t be an expectation of a very specific technical post to still being around in 5 years since it’d be contingent on the instance to still exist.
If the instance is federated then the content will live on all the instances that it’s federated with. Every single instance would have to go away for the content to disappear.
If anything, Lemmy is way more reliable than Reddit, which is currently controlled by a whiny crybaby making unpredictable decisions.
There are already plenty of support communities generating legitimately helpful information. I expect it to only get better.
They came after a small sub I moderate today too. My response was to make a sticky post to the sub with the contents of the mod mail and a recommendation for everyone to move to kbin or lemmy. I hadn’t planned on giving reddit any more free content anyways given their behaviour.
That’s a good idea, I have a small sub (only 20k subs) and I kept it dark till yesterday. I don’t want to give Reddit the satisfaction of taking it, but putting sticky posts for kbin/lemmy seems like the way to go. I think I’ll post a user guide, too.
On that subject, kbin reminds me of the Reddit I migrated to after Digg killed itself. It’s a bit trickier for novices to navigate, but the interface is starting to grow on me, and I suspect that will be the case for many.
Holy shit that’s rich.
You , as a mod, are in a position of trust! You have an obligation to your community.
-reddit who has fucked over th community
It’s just manipulation of course. They’re trying to guilt-trip mods into doing what Reddit wants. Reddit’s concern here is obviously not for the poor innocent users being deprived their access to these subreddits. Reddit’s concern is maximising the amount of cash that flows into their pockets.
If Reddit actually cared about the users then they would respect the subreddits where users have voted to keep the subreddit private or change the subreddit to NSFW content. But Reddit is not respecting these votes from users, because they only care about the cash flowing into their pockets.
I’m moving my teeny-tiny sub to kbin tonight.
All 8 people that subscribe to its semi-annual posts will have their worlds shaken /s
r/DawnWells and all 4 subscribers staying closed. I figure they’ll get to my by 2029 or so. :)
That’s easy.
Reopen the sub and put a sticky post with info on how to join kbin/lemmy and encouraging users to give it a try and join the fediverse alternative sub you’ve created.Then if you post any content- do it on the fediverse, and if you post it to Reddit just make it a link post to the fediverse page that has the content. Optionally disable comments or filter them.
They are deleting all references to kbin/lemmy.
Then the more fediverse links that get posted, the more work they’ll have to do. Do they have the staff to keep up? (That’s a rhetorical question.)
Reddit is already making liberal use of AI bots to post and reply, I suspect they will use them to moderate soon enough. After a while, it will just be bots talking to bots (self-generated content) and I think Reddit management will be fine with that as long as Wall Street doesn’t notice or care.
Source on this?
It seems lemmy links were removed from r/Piracy’s sidebar (maybe by the mods, possibly by admins), but their pinned post still has links to both their own piracy instance and the piracy community on lemmy.ml. So maybe pinned posts are safe.
I’ve put the kBin links on the sidebar of my subs.
What ate the new magazines? Promote them here!
a watermark in every post with image/videos that shows the address, eventually even new members will notice and migrate
Well then we’ll just have to post even harder.
All the more reason to keep mentioning them in regular comments then - they might be able to moderate stickied posts themselves but they can’t read through every comment on every subreddit.
Why not just program a bot to crawl their site looking for any string that says “lemmy” or “l e m m y” or what have you? I’d think it’s be easy for them to do, the bigger question is what kind of backlash they would get for it.
I’d be more worried about martyring lemmy on Reddit which would just force more traffic over here imo.
Or maybe they dont think Lemmy is actually a threat.
Source on that?
I’m surprised they’re still allowing that.
I suspect they’ll start auto-deleting comments which reference the competition sooner rather than later.
It’s already increasingly obvious that they’re deleting comments and using bots to change the narrative.
Twitter blocked links Mastadon for a hot minute calling them spam or unsafe or something. IIRC they backed down after a couple of days. Reddit has already been getting shit press for the last couple of weeks, tech journos are watching this all unfold closely, is Reddit dumb enough to take an action that is blatantly censorship and anticompetitive? It would be totally unspinable.
If they do that, it’ll tell you a lot about reddits thinking here. Spez current position is that the people complaining are a small minority and this will all blow over soon. If Reddit really believes that, then they best course of action is to let the complainers post their Lemmy/Kbin links, avoid a fresh round of bad press, and the lemmy/Kbin users will be gone in a couple of weeks and the reddit user base will remain largely intact. If Reddit views the risk of a mass migration to be a real and existential threat to their business, despite what they are saying publicly, then blocking Lemmy/Kbin links would make sense as a last ditch effort to keep their user base of casual users ignorant of popular alternatives, bad press being a necessary cost worth paying to try to retain the user base they need to sell for their ipo. All for that assumes Reddit is behaving rationally though, which Spez has shown isn’t a safe assumption.
Agree that rationality is not a safe assumption. None of this has been rational- it feels like Spez is having a temper tantrum (as would a small child) and those around him are desperately trying to channel it into professional-ish actions.
Also makes sense if Spez is Ellen Pao 2.0- board decides unpopular changes need to be made, so they pay Spez extra to do 120% of what they want and be the fall guy. He goes nuts for a while, then resigns, and is replaced with some suit who looks good on TV and has a bit of social media cred. That guy then says all the right things to the community and walks back 20% of the changes.
This probably all pushes the IPO back a year or so, but if they think they can increase revenue in that time, it makes some sense.At this point though I wouldn’t put anything past Reddit.
I have to think someone there is smart enough to know if they block fediverse links that’s a huge escalation that makes them OBVIOUSLY the ‘bad guys’ even in the eyes of people who DGAF about the API nonsense.
From the POV of a 3rd party observer, it COULD be argued that Reddit is just dumping freeloaders, a bunch of the users don’t like it and want shit for free, and it’s a stupid forum drama squabble.
But as soon as they start actively suppressing competitors, that becomes a lot harder to see as anything other than ‘actively stopping their users who want to leave from leaving’.
Meanwhile I just mentioned /u/spez in a comment and promptly got an auto moderator notification that you’re not allowed to username-mention admins anymore, so I guess he’s tired of having his inbox consist of 100,000 messages telling him to GFY.
“he who must not be named” lol
Fuck you /u/spez, you fragile fucking snowflake
Steve Huffman, use his name. It’s not defamation if it’s true.
He already had that muted anyway, this is just being done out of spite.
Yep, just got one for my 3 member (all of whom are mods) sub, which purely exists for the 3 of us to shitpost once every few months. Apparently millions of people rely on us. Who knew?!
Wow. That’s especially pathetic of the admins.
If anyone believed the line about how community members should have a say in what happens to their subs, there you go. Congrats on your upgrade to Democracy Gold.
It’s kinda obvious, isn’t it. Just recreate the community/magazine on lemmy/kbin :D
Maybe advertise your community in the subreddit while telling everyone that you have been replaced as a moderator.
they are deleting those kind of post, maybe keywords are being check, so i suggest to an image/video that has watermark of the said kbin/lemmy address, do that on every post, eventually new or regular member will notice it in every post.
You could even do an image with a QR code to the kbin or lemmy address.
Man, Reddit can get bent. Let’s make their IPO fail miserably so they don’t profit off this bullshit.
@cm0002 , I would recreate the sub on kbin.social (or whatever instance you favor) as a magazine. Id copy whatever FAQs and guides your sub has and post them to your magazine. I’d download and then delete all of your Reddit comments and anything you personally have written.
Then I would post a sticky with instructions on where to find the new magazine on the Fediverse. Also post the info at r/RedditAlternatives and r/ModCoord (not sure if I got the sub’s name right, someone correct me if I’m wrong).
I don’t know if I’d go scorched earth and open up everything to minimal moderating, or if I would quit. But definitely create an alternative community for your sub here, so ex Redditors have somewhere to go.
Id copy whatever FAQs and guides your sub has and post them to your magazine.
Apparently, someone has archived a copy of a lot of Reddit history:
Yeah if you can migrate over helpful information here it’s a net positive for the community and a big fu to Reddit
lol yeh they came after one of my subs … that i had made public a few hours ago. i’m going to leave programming in automod that tells people where the sub’s new home is
Not use Reddit.
Got one for a ~10k user sub. I replied “Oh no, don’t fire me from a job I don’t get paid for.”
Don’t know who they think is going to want to take the job.
Just say the same thing I said when I got this at r/knives. Fuck spez.
Most of if not the whole mod team of r/askmen is leaving, they didn’t get forcibly removed but they’re done with the bullshit so they’re quitting.
I wonder if Reddit knows it’s doing some serious and potentially irrevocable damage to itself.
