Say the line, Bart

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    I mean the most sympathetic part is probably just depicting the crew as majority being non-nazis other than one ridiculed guy, and I guess you could criticize how the main point is just focusing about the whole endeavour being pointless and a waste rather than focusing on the evil shit they fought for but overall this feels like kind of a shallow take to get upbears.

  • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    I wouldn’t call it “sympathetic” when it’s an anti war tv film that is about how war is hell and ravages the human psyche, and the principal cast dies at the end without fanfare or glory.

  • flowernet [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    I watched Cross of Iron and I thought it was an amazing denunciation of Nazism by saying “look at these stupid, hollow men and their threadbare rationalizations, and hypocrisies, and so on” and then when I looked back at it in college when I wanted to write a paper on it, I realized, no, the director is saying “Those rationalizations are valid and completely exonerate Steiner, and the German army, and maybe even Stranksy”

    • VHS [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      true, it also was in theatres over and over again because it predated home video and widespread TV adoption. not sure how much that affects the numbers

  • LeninsRage [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    I don’t know how you watch this film and come away with the opinion that its “sympathetic to Nazis”, especially since the Kriegsmarine was the least Nazified branch of the Wehrmacht by a significant margin

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    3 years ago

    Idk how Beer Fest holds up today, but the German team being huge assholes was a nice touch. The old German guy in it was also in Das Boot, and they make a reference to it at one point in the film.

    There are probably good East German or Soviet WW2 movies, but we never hear about them in the US.