Make me feel old while you’re at it

  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    Door knocking for Bernie was one of the things that radicalized me the most away from electoralism. Every white person I spoke to hemmed and hawed about electability and the supreme court and my brother Danny said and this and that and well I’ll just do what my union says etc etc, while every non white person I spoke to said their whole family was already voting for Bernie and many asked how to get involved. And then all I heard from white libs that whole election was how we should listen to black and brown people and vote for Biden. Which black and brown people were they talking to? Who is part of this mythical monolith of non whites who actually hate Bernie and want the old racist? “Well polling indicates and this rich poc doctor on NPR said” man fuck you go talk to a real human.

    And then of course they stole it from him and I’ll never participate in federal electoralism ever again. Any hope I had for it was dashed by my own participation in it. Meanwhile people who have never done a single goddamn thing say it’s my fault we have Trump or that Biden couldn’t do anything in his term.

    Like he wasn’t even that good of a candidate. I had complaints. I have even more now. But I truly saw under the hood about how media and the system work together to ensure electoralism cannot possibly work, by getting out there and knocking doors and I can never unlearn it. So thanks Bernie for at least inspiring me to get out there and do some direct participation in electoralism because it really helped fuel my immense rage against liberalism

    monke-rage

    • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      maybe-later-honey Uhhh obviously this is fake, Bernie is the candidate for privileged white bros. That’s why he lost South Carolina in the 2020 primary, because all the black people there voted for Biden and you should trust their judgment because you aren’t racist, are you?

      For real, though, the Democrats lost me forever with how they did Bernie dirty. Then they lost me forever twice over when they willingly became complicit in the Palestinian genocide.

  • makotech222 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2016 post bernie -> i’m a socialist cause i want healthcare

    2020 post bernie -> i’m a communist cause we will never vote our way to healthcare

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    Not me but also I was older and I had a decent idea about what elections were useful for, as a revolutionary. I think we all forget that electorialism might not work but these campaigns and movements come with a wave of radicalisation. The point is to ensure that every time, when the succdems get ratfucked or betray us or come up against the iron wall of capital we scoop up the next group of leftists and give them somewhere to shelter until the next wave.

    Not to say that reforms and social gains aren’t nice to have, or that Bernie winning wouldn’t have been fun, but the goal is revolution. We should be coming back stronger every time, and frankly I think we’re doing a pretty good job of that in the long run, given where we were in the 1990s.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    After participating in high school politics, I was absolutely sure that elections never solve anything, as even when we did try to do good things, the school administration prevented us from doing so. In college, I softened up my stance abit just so I would stop making people literally cry in class from shutting them down so hard and comprehensively (literal liberal tears, which was heartbreaking), but I have since recalcified after seeing all of those well-meaning progressives get duped or dupe themselves over and over again. Instead, I have gotten better at how I present my stances.

    I’ve always admired Marxist thinking though. That never changed.

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    I was already in my 30s in 2016 and already radicalized, but I still enjoyed seeing so many people move left. I had probably 10 friends/acquaintances tell me I was right after Bernie got ratfucked. More than a few are fully radicalized now.

    As a teen I was mostly politically ignorant with an incoherent ideology. The internet was young then and I learned a few things, but not enough to really understand anything beyond “fuck these rich people”.

    I floated around studying ideologies without really committing to anything until my mid 20s when I realized I was genuinely a socialist/communist and it wasn’t just a joke. I still flirted with anarchism for a few years, but eventually I realized there was no hope for anything short of a heavily organized vanguard party.

    I still think it’s funny that one of the main reasons I moved further left is because rightwingers kept calling me a socialist/communist/radical leftist/etc. I only studied it in-depth because of that.