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“Nothing I love more than giving the far-right Israeli government the excuse it desperately wanted to genocide Gaza! Critical support for the PEOPLE’S Zionist-Funded Catspaw of Hamas!”
Putting aside the extremely dubious military value of the raid (which, as has been pointed out, largely resulted in the massacre and kidnapping of civilians rather than the pursuit of serious military objectives, including UN-verified sexual assault that is denied by multiple admins on the Fediverse ), celebrating what can be seen even under the most charitable terms as an overwhelming strategic failure is… strange.
It’s like Confederates celebrating Pickett’s Charge.
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First off, the Palestinian citizens are the victims of genocide, not Hamas
Second, nothing good came from the terrorist attack. Only bad stuff and there was a LOT of it. It was a stupid operation that accomplished nothing. Pug is right to question why anyone would celebrate it…
…unless, of course, you celebrate the senseless murder of civilians. Guess you just work for the IDF.
Charming people. /s
I can tell you from experience that Cowbee is by far the most abusive person to argue with online I have ever encountered. And I love arguing online so I’ve met a lot. I blocked them a long time ago and seeing them in a screenshot still makes me shudder. Terrible humans
Cowbee is frustrating, but he’s easy to counter once you realise his spiel.
Extremeists rely heavily on gish-gallop, bombarding you with nonsense. You need to focus on the weakest claim, point out the bias or flaw in the source, and play for neutrality and impartiality; they’ll crumble every single time.
For example, when presented with an obviously biased source like Prolewiki or Redsails, or whatever copy-paste nonsense they have, ask for something more neutral and professional in tone, such as Reuters, AP News, or a neutral article.
You are biased, your source is biased, I am intimidated by BBC, here is a far more reliable source from suckingstrongmansdick.slop that shows the T-14 Armata will solve world hunger.
Or something along those lines. I try from time to time. But am very quick to give up. So I do my part by making fun of them and donate to a good cause, which somehow makes them sooooooo angry. I wonder why.
That is their response, yeah, fortunately you can point out that liberal or western sources are transparent in their reporting and then ask why eastern sources like from China or Russia, are not transparent
One time I was asked to provide a non-Western source on ethnic cleansing in Xianjiang, (because apparently everything I was saying was straight from the US state deparment) I provided an Al-Jazeera article which apparently wasn’t good enough because it only referenced a UN report. In this same thread I was linked a video about Chinese democracy that came straight from CCP-controlled media lol
Well maybe you’re better than me but I had a terrible time. I like to have some baseline respect when arguing, and I was basically told I’m the worst person imaginable because I didn’t fully answer every single paragraph in both their essay-length comments they left on each of my comments.
They love people dying! :)
If only they did so universally rather than selectively, I could at least have respected their egalitarian misanthropy.
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Also love that antisemitism emote they have there.
Nice holocaust emote Hexbear, you’re really showing them nazis!
The triangle comes from the Palestinian flag, not from the Holocaust. It predates the Holocaust.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_triangle_(Palestinian_symbol)
Did you know Gaza doesn’t teach the holocaust? That seems like a big red flag to me, pun intended.
And their children’s media even teaching kids about “wiping out the jews”
Or it’s just referring to the flag, sure. If so, why are they pinging Gaza’s enemies with Gaza’s own ethnic identity (the red triangle meaning arab)? That seems really odd to me.
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nothing here states support of israel’s actions.
only clear examples of antisemitism within the region.
this may come as a shock to you, brace yourself, but not everything is black and white. As an anarchist, you should know better. You should also edit your comment as it’s too close to being antisemitic, which is against the no hate-speech rules.
I think Envy’s response was over the top but to be fair here, you’re the one who started with black-and-white discourse by putting anything remotely related to Palestine/Gaza into the antisemitism box. I wish you would just acknowledge that you posted misinformation, it’s not a big deal.
oh, no, you misunderstand me.
I’m suggesting it’s more likely that the red arrow Hamas uses is referring to the holocaust instead of the arab identity. Why would they highlight targets in their propaganda videos with their own ethnic identity when they have an extensive history of antisemitism?
I think Envy’s response was over the top but to be fair here, you’re the one who started with black-and-white discourse by putting anything remotely related to Palestine/Gaza into the antisemitism box.
… that Hamas is antisemitic is not exactly a shocking revelation. The red triangle remains controversial and the connection to the Holocaust is not easily dismissed - not least because the inverted red triangle as a stand-alone symbol had very little currency in modern discourse before Hamas started using it to mark Israeli targets.
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why is your response to holocaust denialism to shout zionist?
sus fash
user seems to have deleted their account of a year or two old. very bizarre, guess they had a moment of realisation that they were antisemitic afterall
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to be honest: fuck israel and zionism, and I hope all the people supporting the genocide before the 7th were able to find their US passports and get back home safely.
fuck imperialism and violence in all of its forms
100% agree
it’s so wild how many people can’t comprehend this concept. They’re so bent on sides, unable to realise that bad people and good people exist everywhere in all creeds. It’s so juvenile.
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Ehh
Cowbee will probably die alone
Who could ever love an incel troll like that? XD
hey now, love is found everywhere
Check out isrselis Jews posting tiktoks about Palestinians being starved this is pretty tame in comparison
it’s all bad
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