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If you like to tinker with your own system, that’s fine with us. However, if you change things like stylesheets and icons, you should be aware that you’re in unsupported territory. Any issues you encounter should be reported to the theme developer, not the app developer.
Would have been better to frame it this way.
I mean, the full letter seems like a lot more than that. There’s complaints about ‘branding’, and ‘identity’, and ‘intent’, most of which strays away from supportability and into the realm of concerns about control.
That’s what I was saying, they would have been better off framing this as a support issue. Everything else they touched on was more than unnecessary
My apologies, I misread your comment then.
The support concerns are definitely warranted in some cases.
That doesn’t “generate publicity” in an asinine manner. Rejected.
Except that it would be like the meme where a guy shoots the app and then says “How could the app’s developer have let this happen?”
Tired of people being “dont’ make an open-source app then xD”.
This letter has nothing against the hobyist that theme their system for fun and everything against distro that put their own stylesheet as default breaking something and leaving the maintenance burden to the app dev.
And before I hear “Word that differently then” I want people to remeber the main way you will see this is as a github badge and that other aproch have already been tried over the course of the last 15 last years. Hell I’ve been guilty of reporting an issue with an app because the ubuntu gtk2 stylesheet was breaking icons.
Sorry for the incoherent rambling.
Don’t use open source or libre license then XD Or just tell people to back off
can you link the letter?
I run Debian. does Debian fall afoul of this request? idk.
No, Debian never had a custom preinstalled theme afaik
I’m not aware of any distro who kept their custom themes after this letter was published. ZorinOS still has some theming, but it looks like they only slightly changed some colors (where the previous one was rather invasive)
Linux mint?
So I just checked:
Gnome apps have themed decorations and vanilla content. It’s misaligned and it doesn’t look good, but it’s rather safe functionnality-wise. Also there’s no
~/.config/gtk-4so I don’t know how they did itA lot of other apps are clearly themed, but they are not maintained by signatories of the letter (that I know of)
The only offenders I could find are file-roller and gnome-disk, with gnome-disk having a very small theming issue. They use the same config file as all the apps that want to be themed, so they would have to patch them in order to prevent the theme from applying. Which would prevent user theming and generally be a mess.
then make them fucking consistent with the rest of the entire ecosystem for once?
Average GNOME dev mindset:
Lol
"You are not doing this to Telegram ’ - dude, Telegram is Qt. KDE/Plasma forces Qt themes.
The GTK theming engine is just broken tough.
You don’t have any say over what I do on my computer.
As long as it isn’t illegal of course.
…Have you read the thing?
Even if it WERE, they can’t stop you. They can only punish you post hoc.
Pfft, screw that
When I theme MY system and say I want Dracula on every app I want Dracula on every app I don’t give a fuck what the developer thinks
The letter is not about that… in fact they are cool with ppl theaming their systems. The problem is when downstream packaging decides to include themes by default while keeping the original names…
