I get what the article is going for, but the author premises hand gun owners carrying it on themselves, which we cannot do. That being said yes handguns are used to put holes in paper, or people, so they really aren’t needed, I don’t like the idea of outright banning them, but instead making the acquisition process much more thorough
The process for getting handguns was very thorough. But now there is no process and you can’t buy them. The article 8s 5 years old.
It wasn’t thorough enough in my opinion, the testing was too easy, the rpal course didn’t have nearly enough hands on. There are a bunch of ways the licensing process could be improved upon
I don’t know if they changed it, I think they did, but I just did rpal and it was very hands on.
We went through actually practicing safe storage, different locking mechanisms, cases, all major handgun actions, etc. There was a very strong focus on handling and storing them safely.
I will agree the tests weren’t super hard.
It might vary depend on where you were taught and resources available. My instructor had all sorts of types of firearms out and we had hands-on time with all of them; but we only talked about the storage requirements
Sure but it’s still only a few weekends long of a course, and there should be actual practical at the range
I’ve only seen them on farms
Handguns?
Affirmative.
A rifle is too bulky and loud to bring in a stall/shoot at point blank.
This is so confusing because; handguns are just as loud, rodent control is best dealt with an air powered gun, and unless you’re going out to specifically do that task you wouldn’t be bringing your tool.
Shooting a horse or a cow not rodents.
I don’t understand the last part.
I don’t think you know many farmers. They are not shooting their animals. Slaughterhouses do that part and they usually drown or use the pneumatic bolt made famous in No Country for Old Men.
I just said it’s the only time I’ve seen handguns, doesn’t mean I’ve seen a lot in Canada.
*cops notwithstanding
You mean like putting an animal out of its misery? Well the proper way to do that would be to call a vet, but if you wanted to shoot it, a rifle would not necessarily be too bulky
That’s been my only experience with hand guns
Also because you mentioned vet but I don’t think they do it here. Vets can be licensed for a hand gun in the UK for such an occasion. - Source I helped a friend study.
Canada used to have a problem with gun owners selling their handguns on the black market. We are talking about Canadians with a valid PAL licence.
They purchased guns. Sold them. Profit. Easy as pie.
Winnipegger bought guns legally, sold them to gangs
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/theodore-mantas-firearms-trafficking-1.4357623
A 22-year-old Airdrie man is accused of buying guns and selling them to criminals.
Philip Edward Sarrasin, 26, is accused of running a straw purchasing scheme, where he legally bought multiple handguns which later turned up for sale on the criminal market.
Straw buyers were involved in two recent busts in northern Alberta that took illegal guns off the streets. The man, who was arrested on May 9, bought five handguns between November and December last year and resold them.
An Edmonton man who pleaded guilty received an eight-year prison sentence Thursday for his role in an illegal weapons trafficking scheme.
Shipowich had a restricted firearm licence when he purchased 40 restricted firearms between June and September 2016.
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The good news? That problem is now over. It’s not happening anymore. The price of handguns on the black market has increased, which is a good sign.
The bad news? Most guns are now only coming from the United States. And the United States doesn’t want to address the problem.
No need other than to take a quick glance south is all IMO.
It’s a good thing that there’s no illegally imported guns in Canada, otherwise this might just punish legal gun owners.
At the end of the day we need to look at why guns are being imported illegally and address the root cause
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Sure, but they are still coming in because there is a demand.
Not trying to sound snarky, but what would your solution to the demand be? Cause it will likely never go away.
You’re right, it will never fully go away, and violence will always happen, but I think if we look at why people turn to gangs and violence, and address those issues the “need” for hand guns will drop. People join gangs for various reasons, be they economic, or social pressures, amongst others. So by ensuring that people are safe, well paid, a roof over their heads, full bellies, parents being around, robust before and after school programs, etc gangs wouldn’t have the same pull factor
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The level of demand could change. It will never fully go away
poor legal gun owners… thoughts and prayers
Yeah fuck those guys doing things by the book! How fucking dare they follow the letter of the law!
You do realise that just about all legal gun owners own guns purely for hunting, right?
You also realise that this would intrude on indigenous rights if we banned legal guns… right?
you’re hunting with a handgun?
I got the impression from comment I’m responding to that they’re against legal guns in general. Might be misreading.
this thread is about handguns specifically and they said nothing about other kinds of guns
(and i must say too, as an aussie, i love that we have near 0 gun deaths! it can’t possible be our near total gun ban though… must be something else)
I’m not making any proposals so not sure what you’re on about “this” intruding on anyone’s rights
I gotta say, today I’m looking very differently at these articles I’ve read 5 years ago too. I don’t want to be afraid of a rando pulling a gun on me because I looked at them the wrong way, or having petty robberies get deadly. At the same time I’m looking at Mango Mussolini down south and can’t help but feel some desire of having an AR15 around. I almost don’t believe I’m actually thinking this but here we are. 😒
You can have both. “Well-regulated militia” and all that. A community group that trains and keeps guns in a central secure location in case of war etc is a very far cry from giving everyone a 9mm for funsies. Good luck convincing your government to let you do that tho.
Because everyone who needs - really needs - one, will have it issued by the employer. Speaking as former infantry, if your employer does not give you a pistol, you do not need a pistol. If you insist on having a pistol when you do not need a pistol, your problem is more personal than gun laws. Simple-as.
If Americans invade, I have a rock. They’ll bring the gun to me. They’ll probably leave it somewhere, actually, while re-tying their flourescent Nikes.
If the US invades, a little hand gun isn’t going to help at all.
Hunting rifles would be much better for long range sniping. I’d rather have a shotgun if it’s closer combat. We can get those easily (all things considered).
And an FN-P90 without the muzzle extension is also much more appropriate in an urban-warfare situation than any handgun.
150 rounds in 50-round magazines and in-stock storage for two magazines, UN ammunition that has limited range to avoid secondary fatalities, extremely short bullpup length for tight environments, two-handed use so it isn’t easily ripped from your grasp… the list goes on and on.
Why would they invade when they can just embargo. We couldn’t get anything in or out if they said no.
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A conventional war between Canada and the US will be over in days, if not hours. I’m not sure America could win an unconventional (guerilla) war with Canada.
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Wars can be fought on multiple fronts in different ways. We are currently in a trade war with America, started by them, as well as having them threaten and dismiss our sovereignty. This is not the act of an ally. Much like how relations with Germany are currently good, we can considering repairing the relationship with America when theis war and these acts of aggression are over.
I literally have family across America from north to south and east to west. That is no reason to put up with the hostility their nation is showing ours.
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What’s the point of negotiating with Trump? We had a trade deal negotiated with him that went into effect 5 years ago. Now he’s doing all the shit we’ve seen for this whole year. 5 years is yesterday in political and economic terms. Also, you are wrong. He visited in May and October, so 2 visits in 7 months. And people all over the world have tried to make deals with Trump. Almost none of them have worked out at all, let alone well.
As for an actual war, with armies meeting in the field? I don’t need to be a tactician to see that trying to go toe to toe with the country that spends more than the next 9 largest militaries in the world, which does not include Canada, is a fools errand. I also don’t think our military leaders are fools. I’d be completely unsurprised to learn that they have a plan for guerilla warfare should America try to invade. In spite of their military spending, they haven’t been successful against those since Vietnam, and we are uniquely positioned to bring a guerilla war into their territory.
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You mention 3 countries in your list. Care to give your opinions on the other 87 countries?
Also, I never said Canada would attack America. America has already started a trade war and threatened to annex us. I wouldn’t rule out that devolving into something faster or more aggressive from the guy who wondered why nuclear missiles were just left sitting in silos instead of using them and renamed the Department of Defense to the department of War.
Because keeping someone in jail for a lifetime costs a lot of taxes and many people don’t like to pay taxes.
