may i remind you that as a left-libertarian:
- i support the constitution, despite its flaws, and even the flaws about the founding fathers.
- i support limited government within a socialist framework
- i’m pretty sure there are revisionists here on hexbear which is fine - everyone has their own opinion, and some (including the people here) have their own taste of socialism/communism.
- i do NOT condone the actions of stalin in any way, shape and form - between stalin and trotsky, i’d go with trotsky. he should’ve succeeded lenin in the 1920s to begin with.
- there are democratic and libertarian forms of communism such as/like de leonism, left-communism and even council communism.
- i find the idea of a multi-party communist country (like in ‘reds! a revolutionary timeline’ (you can also find the wiki here (just DON’T vandalize it, and i mean it!), or in nepal through ‘people’s multiparty democracy’) to be interesting.


Why do you support the constitution of your country[1]? If the current constitution has good parts then surely those could just be copied into a new constitution, right?
I am contractually obligated to point out that you didn’t specify which country you’re talking about; I know which country you’re from only because there’s exactly one country whose netizens rarely feel the need to specify which country they’re from. I can only assume the “founding fathers” are not the Eidsvoll Men. ↩︎
…But it’s a minor point, anyways. I just want people who seem to have a mindset that centers their own country to challenge that mindset, to think internationally, right. But that discussion is out of the way now, anyways. The bigger point is, again, why do you support the US constitution? I ask because even back when I was a liberal, I still supported my countries of citizenship getting new constitutions; I considered it obvious that these types of documents left for a few centuries will become outdated, and found the apparent “worship” of the Norwegian and US Constitutions to be very perplexing.
well i think that if the us becomes a socialist nation (in one way or another), the constitution will have to be reformed, the government will have to be restructured to fit within a socialist framework (i was thinking of de leonism and council communism), and a second bill of rights would be ratified.
How does this differ from adopting a new constitution in practice?
i think some socialists here in the us advocate for the us government to be reorganized to fit within a socialist framework.
That didn’t really answer my question, but it seems like you might have issues with communication and social cues.
i actually have autism. seriously.
I figured as much. I wish the other people here would be more considerate of that.