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Friendly reminder that turnout in this year’s provincial election was 44%. Ontarians simply don’t give a shit who is in Queen’s Park even though that person affects their lives far more than the PM
Cool, what do you do with that info? Every post about this shit admin has some dude proudly pointing out that some very bad eggs didn’t vote. We know people don’t vote! We’ve always known; he knows. The fucking guy calls snap elections specifically to ensure a turnout lower than the already low turnouts in Canada.
What are we gonna do about it? Wag our finger at them for being so naughty? Fuck, like I’m so tired of seeing this shit.
Go to your MPP’s offices. Make them fucking miserable until they give in and stop supporting these policies, disrupt any events (like fundraisers) they host, get involved in whatever activist networks exist in your area. Most people who did vote didn’t fucking vote for them, why don’t you focus on that?
i put a blank ballot because i don’t like any of the MPPs in my area.
Do you have a breakdown by regions? Really curious. Outside the GTA Ontarians tend to lean right, no? I’d like to see how the GTA voter turnout compared to the rest of the province.
Edit: There’s some data available right from Elections Ontario. https://results.elections.on.ca/en/publications. Statistical Summary by Electoral District contains the info. Have to sift through it but it looks like the Toronto average was just over 40%, so a bit lower than average. That’s very disappointing.
lol out of around 100k voters in my district, only 44k voted. sadly no parties were socialist enough for me though.
Of course they have. Conservatives want people undereducated and gullible, preferably conditioned to acquiesce to authority, to better serve the conservative hierarchical system and the capitalists who are consolidating ownership of the property, system, and populace.
I strongly disagree. In fact if you look at who values education the most, its Conservative parents as they are, by far, the largest demographic who put their children in independent schools. Those schools still have to follow the provincial curriculum and have fully certified teachers, but the public system is ambivalent or openly hostile to conservative values and dont allow for specialties which is where independent schools come in. Its the parents who dont really care about education who leave their kids in public schools where standards are often lower and the parents are are less interested in educational outcomes.
Conservative parents are so committed they are willing to pay their full tax bill, PLUS pay for tuition on top, despite the average income being at or BELOW the provincial average - because they value solid education based on strong values, not the ‘dumbed down’ robots you’re suggesting.
“Independent Schools” are an afront to equal opportunity.
If conservatives truely believed in equal opportunity, they would fund public schools better. You can also donate directly to school boards.
Mind you also, that if the parents value education, the children don’t necessarily.
So you have children who value education be with parents who don’t not getting what they deserve and vice versa.
“Independent Schools” shows conservative values do not include equal opportunity. They oppose it.
Finland bans public schools and they do quite well.
If conservatives actually valued education, they would fund public school systems but they don’t even when they are literally in control of the system.
Heres the hard truth. The public system CANNOT educate every child. It just cant.
My city has a specialized school for autistic kids. Theres one for blind kids. One for children who have extreme behavior disorders. One for pregnant girls. There are over 200 SPECIALTY schools that take specialized training, facilities and people with a passion for that particular specialty. Those kids NEED to be in specialized schools, they dont fit in the public school and there’s no way the public school can afford the specialists (doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, therapists, social workers and teachers and aides) that they need.
That’s not valuing the education system, that’s looking for an advantage. As in, “I got mine, fuck you.”
On what premise do you base that statement? I interviewed hundreds of parents who were seeking to enroll their child and never ONCE did I get that attitude from them. They enroll because they care about their kids, because they are worried about the decline of standards in the public school system, because they like a particular program in the school… but never THAT. And they definitely value education.
to better serve the conservative hierarchical system
The underfunding (of 260 per student) isn’t good, of course, but this interpretation is a bit odd. Educational systems in Canada and other democratic countries aren’t some sort of propaganda tools like, say, in China, where students learn about “Xi Jinping thought” and similar propaganda (such ‘courses’ are mandatory in Chinese schools and universities).
Conservatives consider math leftist propaganda. Remember, our Premiere has a GED and flunked Humber College’s one year upgrade program.
Conservatives consider math leftist propaganda
Lol. WHERE did you get that gem?
I think you’ve slightly missed my point. I am not saying the education system is the propaganda tool. I’m saying underfunding the education system allows the propaganda tools of those with money and an agenda of control to operate outside of school with less resistance.
Look at the US as a prime example. Critical thinking is worse, belief in the book of desert fairy tales is promoted instead, and when critical thinking is untrained, historical knowledge is poor, scientific literacy is low, and corporate propaganda is prevalent, it becomes way easier for corporations to implement their totalitarian agenda.
I got it, you can just also take China as an example. The story is more or less the same: Critical thinking is only allowed if it doesn’t contradicts the state narrative, belief in the leader’s thought first and foremost, historical knowledge is poor due to censorship (younger people have never heard about the Tiananmen Square massacre, for example, and barely know about genocides such as in Xiniang), state propaganda is prevalent, and it is easy for the Party to implement a totalitarian agenda.
So it’s basically the same thing.
But schools should be teaching critical thinking and reasoning, empathy, and expose children to different cultures.
You know, woke stuff.
When kids aren’t taught how to think critically, there’s a greater chance they’ll be caught up in the fallacies of the populist conservative movement.
But more importantly, the Vaughan Canadesi are even more Billionaires.
