• mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Dude’s 45, the lighting here is good (is he wearing makeup?) so I might think he’s 30, but looking at other pictures, if I saw him in person I would probably think “damn that guy’s like 50 with oddly soft skin, he looks weird.” Sure, he has the style and build of a college kid, so from a distance he probably passes as young, but sure as hell not up close. It’s like a middle aged man wearing the skinsuit of someone my age. My parents are his age and look younger than him honestly.

    Also all these photoshoots are creepy as fuck

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      Meh I dunno, I’ve seen people in their 20s look like they’re 40-something. If he’s gonna spend millions then hopefully that knowledge can be used for the rest of us. He shares his protocol and all his data on his website (Blueprint). He has a huge team of doctors monitoring all his vitals, levels, etc. at the macroscopic and molecular level. And according to the data, he has reduced his epigenetic age and also reduced the rate of future aging. As for him looking creepy, it’s probably because he’s white with smooth skin (and probably doesn’t expose his skin to the sun because it will damage it, which tbh is a fair concern). If he were black or brown, people might say “black don’t crack” or something like that.

      Tbh there’s a lot of cope in the comments here. Like getting older isn’t just about looking older. It’s also not being able to recover from injuries and being at higher risk of things like cancer, etc. because your cells become less efficient at killing damaged cells and regenerating healthy ones. Try being 16 and tearing a tendon vs being 40 and doing it. It’s honestly not fair, and tbh youth is kind of “wasted on the young.”

      And this problem affects societies as well. Every developed nation has an aging population and the child birth rates are declining as well. I’d rather extend my youthful time on this planet than be in constant pain due to aging. If people are delaying childbirth, then having healthier parents at an older age is also nice, especially if you want to play with an active kid. And yes I know “diet, exercise, sleep” is important but tbh it sounds like a capitalist saying “you just need to buckle down and find a job.” Like I fucking know that stuff is important but it’s not gonna fix everything.

      If anti-aging research was being done in Cuba or China the comments would unironically be “damn gimme some of that youth energy Xi!!!” All the angry sentiments in the comments here come off as libertarian-bro contrarianism (for contrarianism sake).

      EDIT: Just to be clear, I do not support or condone exploiting young people as blood bags. I was talking about anti-aging research in general. I thought we just had a big thread about how people need to stop taking the worst possible interpretation of comments here. Jesus…

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        My dad looked way better at 45 than this guy and all he did was cycle a lot

        Sure maybe, but should there also be a chance for people who made a lot of mistakes in their lives (bad diet, smoking, lack of exercise, poor sleep) to change that? Should we really condemn people for “bad choices,” especially when a lot of these “choices” are the result of environmental factors like where you grew up and what people you were surrounded by (like smoking/drinking culture in blue collar jobs because they can be brutal)? Not everyone is fortunate to live a fully organic, vegan, biking lifestyle. I like to think of anti-aging research as akin to the poverty alleviation that AES countries are doing right now. Of course it goes without saying that it should be freely available to all and not just the rich.

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          Sure maybe, but should there also be a chance for people who made a lot of mistakes in their lives (bad diet, smoking, lack of exercise, poor sleep) to change that?

          The guy hits 4/4 on that one. I’m pretty sure it’s either he got incredibly lucky or cycling is a a panacea to ail ills or something, biased towards the latter one for obvious reasons.

          I like to think of anti-aging research as akin to the poverty alleviation that AES countries are doing right now. Of course it goes without saying that it should be freely available to all and not just the rich.

          Tbf there is a lot of “anti-aging” reasearch and it all points towards “don’t become a couch potato” which my dad expertly avoided doing. Millions of factors that should’ve gotten that guy in the hospice for one reason or another, lack of movement wasn’t one of them.

          That is to say, I’m well aware my da’ being in great physical fitness at 45 because $reason is no indication for anything, but neither is being a psychopathic blood vampire to your own children

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      I disagree. I strive for a world in which humans have rational control over things, after the economy and nature so that we don’t have to spend a lot of time and keep it going, there is no reason not to have rational control over the adverse effects of aging.

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        We have to agree to disagree. I find the prospect of a world where humans have rational control over nature terrifying.

        Last comment on this bc I feel like I am wasting my breath:

        Let’s say we eliminate aging, and we all look like we’re 25 until we keel over at age 200 or whatever. No more wrinkles, no more gray hair.

        I believe that would be a worse state of the world. We will have lost something beautiful.

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          I find the prospect of a world where humans have rational control over nature terrifying.

          Because we’re not wise enough? Human nature can change. We can grow wiser as a species — especially if we live longer.

          No more wrinkles, no more gray hair… We will have lost something beautiful

          Wrinkles aren’t just cosmetic, they form as the connective tissue in your skin breaks down, making your skin thinner, more fragile, and less elastic. This in turn limits what you can do and experience.

          I don’t find that beautiful. What I find beautiful is the stuff that comes along with it. Gaining perspective, watching your children and grandchildren grow up, guiding the next generation, focusing less on yourself.

          I don’t think we need to slowly decay to have these features in the world.

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            Wrinkles aren’t just cosmetic, they form as the connective tissue in your skin breaks down, making your skin thinner, more fragile, and less elastic. This in turn limits what you can do and experience.

            You’re exactly right.

            No more wrinkles, no more gray hair… We will have lost something beautiful

            This is what lack of scientific literacy does to a MF. Ask any older person and they’ll tell you that being old (wrinkles, aches, etc) sucks. It’s a shame that some people don’t get that.

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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          Let’s say we eliminate myopia, either with lenses or lasers, and we all see like we’re 10 for the rest of our lives. No more blurriness, no more inability to read.

          I believe that would be a worse state of the world. We will have lost something beautiful.

          very-intelligent

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          I don’t care so much about how I look, but about the hurt and the choice not a community or me can do in regards to aging. I mean currently medication and good food and good infrastructure can people have 90 years of life expectancy, if you look at workers in more shitty situations they are dying like 20 years earlier. This is an injustice and it will stay an injustice in communism if there would be ways for people to live longer. That is a debate and choice that has to be then be done.

          There is nothing holy in the arbitrary life expectancy that material conditions and evolutions “gave” us. I do see how a “change” in population might be seen as beautiful, but I believe that we will not become immortal (but even if we did), so it just is a question about communist reproduction of society. It might ensure that more people can care for a child? In any case currently it is mostly utopian, but the reality is that we can increase the life span of people by decades as society. That is something that Cuba does and they have my support for that. With medication that is upcoming people will likely have a higher quality of life till the climate catastrophe disrupts the production of those, how to distribute them for me is an analogous question. Especially since a few comrades of mine would be dead already without medication.