• audaxdreik@pawb.social
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    7 hours ago

    It can’t be stated enough that people who vide code can’t code. Not just in that they literally don’t know how, but if for any reason those AI tools are altered, taken away, or they begin charging too much, they will lose the actual ability to continue coding.

    It’s all about deskilling labor and controlling it. It always has been.

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      4 hours ago

      Yeah, no. It is a genuinely useful tool in the hands of people that know how to use it.

      People said the same things about calculators, then graphing calculators, then computers, etc. People said the same thing about digital artists. They said the same thing about heavy machinery replacing oxen. They said the same thing over and over again.

      Really, really tired of this same braindead cycle repeating. Are there any humans anywhere as a collective that are free thinkers? Anywhere on Earth?

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        People said the same things about calculators, then graphing calculators, then computers, etc. People said the same thing about digital artists. They said the same thing about heavy machinery replacing oxen. They said the same thing over and over again.

        Really, really tired of this same braindead cycle repeating. Are there any humans anywhere as a collective that are free thinkers? Anywhere on Earth?

        It’s funny to hear this same, tired line from someone who has adopted a thinking machine to do their thinking for them. Free thinker? Not you.

        This is survivorship bias, while I don’t doubt each of those devices had their share of naysayers in their day, the reason they’re still with us is because they did in fact have a use. We are not so far that the same can be said of AI and the current wave of resistance from so many people pushing back is the exact indication of that. It is reality asserting itself.

        But really, I just don’t understand how I need so much training to talk to an AI? I thought the purpose was that it would intuitively translate my ideas into action but instead we need to undergo training at work and have special prompt engineers that can poke it effectively enough to get something worthwhile out of it, but even then only after it has likely created several iterations of garbage.

        Nevermind the fact that AI and coding simply don’t mix. The purpose of coding is to translate precise logic into exact action. How does AI interpret vague ideas into precise code? You constantly try to write off naysayers as people who don’t understand or haven’t tried it enough and I am telling you, it is exactly those that HAVE looked at it, used it, read about it, see how it was developed and where it’s going that are against it the most.

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          3 hours ago

          You have no idea who you’re talking to.

          I do hope your small-mindedness does work out for you, though history has shown being actively hostile to innovation is not a great way to survive rapidly changing environments.

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    5 hours ago

    yes, please push it more! my bank account thanks you for it!

    The best thing that ever happened to my career and wallet has been the vibe coder. Getting paid to review and potentially fix their slop that they churn out was one of the best pivots I made in my career. Went from being a consulting dev to a consulting “digital janitor”.

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    8 hours ago

    So Mr. “don’t blindly trust AI” now wants AI to develop the very foundation of mobile computing. After seeing how wonderful this works out for Microsoft. Really?

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    11 hours ago

    We had vibe coded desktop operating systems, what about vibe coded phone operating systems?

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      10 hours ago

      I vibe coded a website that took posts from Lemmy and Reddit and fed them into OpenAI to “calm them down” and repost them as totally emotionless as possible. It did the whole thing for me (well, I had to adjust a few things).

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        Lol

        Yeah it works well for ideas like that. But it’s hard to scale and as it becomes more complex it starts breaking more stuff that it fixes

        I vibe coded data transformations in python, websites, userscripts, plugins for stuff

        I think everyone should experiment with it. It can genuinely be super helpful. At least for me who have programmer schooling but have mostly worked in ops my entire life.