I wanna see him debate her

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    From a worldbuilding perspective it fucking sucks. Like if you’re going to build a strawman commie totalitarian state at least make it interesting.

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    I started reading it a few days back. I am still struggling to read it. This guy Winston, thinks so highly of himself, and so lowly of others. He calls his neighbours stupid, them being transferred to a department requiring “less intelligence”, while not being able to string a proper sentence himself when writing. Also his violent fantasies when he first sees Julia. I don’t know whether I’ll be able to continue the story or not. As just a novel, it is so off-putting. Aren’t lead characters supposed to be relatable?

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      I wonder if you would find Doctorow’s “Little Brother” more palatable. It’s set in “modern times” (ugh, depressing to admit that no, it’s more accurately set in recent past before things in real life went even crazier out of whack). Also, the main characters are teens and young adults, and while the target audience is “young adults” it can certainly be an eye-opening experience for adult “sheeple” too (not implying you’re one, to be clear).

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      I recommend “Julia: A Novel” by Sandra Newman. It is a feminist retelling of the story from Julia’s perspective.

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        I’ve never heard of this, that is very interesting and definitely goes to the top of my reading list. Thank you!

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      I didn’t read the book but watched the movie instead and I don’t know how much is different between the two.

      It needed a bit of patience to get through it to be honest. In my opinion, it’s more a kind of book/movie you read/watch because of its message, not because it’s particularly entertaining.

      In a way, I guess that could be seen as part of the message if you look at it as a warning of what could be instead of as a story that is fun to experience.

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        That is a good point for a different book. I don’t think I’ve seem anyone argue that you aren’t supposed to relate to Winston Most-Common-Surname.

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      Orwell was unable to conceive of computers or robots, or he would have placed everyone under non-human surveillance. Our own computers to some extent do this in the IRS, in credit files, and so on, but that does not take us towards 1984, except in fevered imaginations. Computers and tyranny do not necessarily go hand in hand. Tyrannies have worked very well without computers (consider the Nazis) and the most computerised nations in today’s world are also the least tyrannical.

      Wow. Asimov made some good points, but that one sure didn’t age well.