Too bad the people who need to hear this aren’t listening. I tried to make the same argument in 24 and constantly got responses that didn’t amount to anything more than
Nope, I’m gonna take my ball and go home, who cares if temu Hitler wins? Both sides blah blah blah
If your response to the 2024 election is to blame non-voters rather than the party that alienated their base, then you’re part of the problem. The Democrats lost because they are a disgrace to the values they claimed to champion, which is a reputation they earned over Biden’s 4 year term. If you refuse to put pressure on the people who built that wall, then you will never create a sustainable strategy for positive change. If Democrats voters don’t apply maximum pressure to the establishment, we are guaranteed to get fascism back within a cycle, even if the Dems win.
As someone who has voted in every election I could and still continues to vote despite having no faith in liberalism, I feel like I have a right call out this childish bullshit. You cannot shame the people you’re calling out; all you’re doing is taking out your anger in the most counterproductive way possible. You make me feel ashamed to ever vote (D). It isn’t the Republicans that make me hopeless for the future; it’s you.
I also made this argument in '24, and then I considered the fact that electing a democrat did exactly Jack Fucking Shit besides ensure a republican victory in '24. Can you think of anything that Biden did to mitigate any of the damage Trump has caused? Because as of now, the only person getting in the way of Trump’s plans is Trump
Brother, you voted third party. Steel man THAT decision by finding any evidence AT ALL that voting for a 3rd party has EVER been a successful strategy in a First Past the Post voting system.
How else can one show the democrats they are willing to vote but not for them? Don’t pretend its the same as abstaining, or you don’t understand electoral politics
The steel man against my argument (and the actual arguments I’ve heard) is that they do not want to support genocide at all, so they wouldn’t vote for the Democrats.
The problem with that stance is that with only 2 viable candidates on the ballot, there is no option, including abstention, that doesn’t support genocide. Voting Democrat would have let us potentially pressure the government, but staying home has always been a tacit endorsement of the right just due to how the electoral college functions and weights smaller (red) state voters heavier than larger states.
I’d love to hear a steel man from the other side about how not voting was the proper way to go. Especially one that calls out all of the unnecessary loss of life that was caused by the results of that collective choice.
Too bad the people who need to hear this aren’t listening. I tried to make the same argument in 24 and constantly got responses that didn’t amount to anything more than
If your response to the 2024 election is to blame non-voters rather than the party that alienated their base, then you’re part of the problem. The Democrats lost because they are a disgrace to the values they claimed to champion, which is a reputation they earned over Biden’s 4 year term. If you refuse to put pressure on the people who built that wall, then you will never create a sustainable strategy for positive change. If Democrats voters don’t apply maximum pressure to the establishment, we are guaranteed to get fascism back within a cycle, even if the Dems win.
As someone who has voted in every election I could and still continues to vote despite having no faith in liberalism, I feel like I have a right call out this childish bullshit. You cannot shame the people you’re calling out; all you’re doing is taking out your anger in the most counterproductive way possible. You make me feel ashamed to ever vote (D). It isn’t the Republicans that make me hopeless for the future; it’s you.
I also made this argument in '24, and then I considered the fact that electing a democrat did exactly Jack Fucking Shit besides ensure a republican victory in '24. Can you think of anything that Biden did to mitigate any of the damage Trump has caused? Because as of now, the only person getting in the way of Trump’s plans is Trump
I don’t think this is fair, and I don’t know that I trust you could steel-man your opposing view.
Brother, you voted third party. Steel man THAT decision by finding any evidence AT ALL that voting for a 3rd party has EVER been a successful strategy in a First Past the Post voting system.
How else can one show the democrats they are willing to vote but not for them? Don’t pretend its the same as abstaining, or you don’t understand electoral politics
The steel man against my argument (and the actual arguments I’ve heard) is that they do not want to support genocide at all, so they wouldn’t vote for the Democrats.
The problem with that stance is that with only 2 viable candidates on the ballot, there is no option, including abstention, that doesn’t support genocide. Voting Democrat would have let us potentially pressure the government, but staying home has always been a tacit endorsement of the right just due to how the electoral college functions and weights smaller (red) state voters heavier than larger states.
I’d love to hear a steel man from the other side about how not voting was the proper way to go. Especially one that calls out all of the unnecessary loss of life that was caused by the results of that collective choice.