• chortle_tortle@mander.xyz
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    10 hours ago

    Too bad the people who need to hear this aren’t listening.

    I don’t think this is fair, and I don’t know that I trust you could steel-man your opposing view.

    • freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Brother, you voted third party. Steel man THAT decision by finding any evidence AT ALL that voting for a 3rd party has EVER been a successful strategy in a First Past the Post voting system.

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        6 hours ago

        How else can one show the democrats they are willing to vote but not for them? Don’t pretend its the same as abstaining, or you don’t understand electoral politics

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      8 hours ago

      The steel man against my argument (and the actual arguments I’ve heard) is that they do not want to support genocide at all, so they wouldn’t vote for the Democrats.

      The problem with that stance is that with only 2 viable candidates on the ballot, there is no option, including abstention, that doesn’t support genocide. Voting Democrat would have let us potentially pressure the government, but staying home has always been a tacit endorsement of the right just due to how the electoral college functions and weights smaller (red) state voters heavier than larger states.

      I’d love to hear a steel man from the other side about how not voting was the proper way to go. Especially one that calls out all of the unnecessary loss of life that was caused by the results of that collective choice.