I’m confused by this whole debacle. For decades, Democrats have been calling to end migrant exploitation. The largest vector for this, by far, is the use of illegal migrants. Employers pay them under the table, and pay far less than legal migrants. So Florida goes ahead and sets harsh penalties for any businesses hiring illegal migrants. Shouldn’t this be praised by everyone on the left?
Because I don’t like solving problems with even bigger problems. Or jobs left half finished.
You don’t end immigration by just banning it, hell that has been the right’s key point to gun control. And they’re right. Banning a starving family from working does not fix the hunger issue, nor did it address the over exploitation of immigrants. It just made it so a family has to come up with illegal ways of feeding themselves.
Hell it didn’t even help business owners because they now have rotting fields, and they have to pay higher wages to attract labor.
So the problem isn’t that the left isn’t praising it, it is that the capitalist right wing business owners also hate it. There is a middle ground and this ain’t it.
Do you have better solutions in mind. My naive thoughts are that paying a living wage will also cost business owners more (hence why they’re not sounds that), but try that regulating illegal immigrant pay could risk deportation. The later point is speculation on my part, and seems oxymoronic …
Seems like the best option is to make it easier to get legal immigrant area status for workers.
There was a solution proposed where produce would have an extra $0.03 attached to each produce sold and that would go towards agriculture workforce pay.
That was lobbied against by McDonalds and other Restaurant chains and it died in the senate.
I don’t think people realize how little we have to do in order to increase someone else’s quality of life. It’s not hundreds of dollars, it’s 3 cents.
path to legal citizenship or not-onerous-to-get work visas so they’re allowed to work in the US and compete on the larger job market (and earn a reasonable income)
ultimately, migrant workers are shoring up the US economy. They’re already here, they’re already working. and they’re not criminals. Unlike the rich fucks that buy their way into the US. Like Ted Cruz.
I’m confused by this whole debacle. For decades, Democrats have been calling to end migrant exploitation. The largest vector for this, by far, is the use of illegal migrants. Employers pay them under the table, and pay far less than legal migrants. So Florida goes ahead and sets harsh penalties for any businesses hiring illegal migrants. Shouldn’t this be praised by everyone on the left?
I believe there’s a middle ground between a) paying migrants terrible wages and b) not hiring migrants at all.
If the goal is to better the conditions of illegal migrants, than them not getting any jobs due to hateful policies isnt really cutting it.
Because I don’t like solving problems with even bigger problems. Or jobs left half finished.
You don’t end immigration by just banning it, hell that has been the right’s key point to gun control. And they’re right. Banning a starving family from working does not fix the hunger issue, nor did it address the over exploitation of immigrants. It just made it so a family has to come up with illegal ways of feeding themselves.
Hell it didn’t even help business owners because they now have rotting fields, and they have to pay higher wages to attract labor.
So the problem isn’t that the left isn’t praising it, it is that the capitalist right wing business owners also hate it. There is a middle ground and this ain’t it.
Do you have better solutions in mind. My naive thoughts are that paying a living wage will also cost business owners more (hence why they’re not sounds that), but try that regulating illegal immigrant pay could risk deportation. The later point is speculation on my part, and seems oxymoronic …
Seems like the best option is to make it easier to get legal immigrant area status for workers.
There was a solution proposed where produce would have an extra $0.03 attached to each produce sold and that would go towards agriculture workforce pay.
That was lobbied against by McDonalds and other Restaurant chains and it died in the senate.
I don’t think people realize how little we have to do in order to increase someone else’s quality of life. It’s not hundreds of dollars, it’s 3 cents.
path to legal citizenship or not-onerous-to-get work visas so they’re allowed to work in the US and compete on the larger job market (and earn a reasonable income)
ultimately, migrant workers are shoring up the US economy. They’re already here, they’re already working. and they’re not criminals. Unlike the rich fucks that buy their way into the US. Like Ted Cruz.
Except that the workers are the ones catching the felonies here.
You can’t possibly be this ignorant.
If you genuinely think there is no middle ground you may wanna head back Reddit lol