Putting 8Gb of ram in any laptop computer in todays market is a fucking insult to it’s users, let alone someone paying the Apple price tag.
Apple either pull antics or disrupts to keep them in the conversation. This seems more like the former but I’ll wait for the tests.
At least you can buy a model with 16GB easily in stores now without needing a BTO. I remember it actually being easier to buy an iPad with 16GB of RAM than a Mac.
I love a Mac but I bought a non-expandable 8gb iMac once and I’ll never make that mistake again.
The amazing thing is 8GB might not even be enough for the iPhone anymore, the stuttering and frame spikes in Resident Evil could easily be caused by not having enough RAM and having to shuffle art assets between storage and memory.
On the other hand, it’s a hard game to actually recommend playing on an iPhone. Performance is compromised with frequent frame-time spikes and punctuated occasionally by severe bouts of stutter.
could easily be caused by not having enough RAM and having to shuffle art assets between storage and memory
In iOS there is no swap:
In iOS, there is no backing store and so pages are are never paged out to disk, but read-only pages are still be paged in from disk as needed.
Which counterintuitively actually makes it more RAM capacity demanding than macOS. macOS’s 2-stage swapping with compression (and absurdly fast NVME) is in fact quite good, iOS has to fit in RAM and RAM only.
If this is how the iPhone handle Village, RE4 on the other hand is going to be a slaughter for the Pro iPhones lmao
It has more implications for the 8gb MacBooks, minis, and iPads. If their pedaling gaming, 8gb of system memory is not enough for AAA games.
here we go again… 8GB is plenty for the vast majority of people that buy MacBooks because they have basic needs. If your needs aren’t basic, simply buy a MacBook with more RAM.
Complain about the price of 16GB, not if 8GB is enough.
I don’t understand it anyway, I just got 32gb ddr5 for my pc for a little over €100. Why would they hold out on something that important in a 1800+ bucks product?
Don’t link MaxTech. They were one of the idiots originally making the 8GB == 16GB claim. They have no idea what they’re doing.
Glad I’m not alone remembering the bullshit they spewed when the m1 came out.
8gb is great for high memory pressure and being dependent on slow swap memory
MaxTech constantly makes inaccurate comparisons and does not accurately gather data for the workloads they run. Not saying they are wrong here, but they’ve been disproven MANY times in the past.
I wholeheartedly agree about MaxTech on average, but in this particular instance… the video is actually pretty good.
Or rather, if one watches it correctly, the material presented that remains after the filter is quite good. Namely, one should discard all claims based on pure numerology - numbers from the config, current year, “RAM used” shown by activity monitor (a big chunk of that figure is very optional file cache that only marginally improves perf, but uses up the more RAM the more you give it, for starters, + a lot more), etc.
The actual experiments with applications done on the machine, performance measurements (seconds, etc), demonstrations of responsiveness (switching from tab to tab on camera) are actually quite well done, in fact, the other youtube videos on the subject rarely include quantifiable performance / timing measurements and limit themselves to demos (or pure handwaving and numerology).
Of course, conclusions, “recommendations”, etc. in their exact wording also need to be taken with a half a metric ton of salt, but there is still a lot of surprisingly good signal in that video, as noted.
Exactly. Tech YouTubers know NOTHING about tech, they just know clicks. They will avoid straying from a trend or groupthink as it means less views for them.
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I’ll give this debate one thing: I haven’t heard anyone complain that the new Macs only have 1089p front cameras still.
I do heaps of virtual meetings and more resolution just means I look older
And it uses that much more bandwidth. 4K webcams are just dumb. Totally unnecessary and counterproductive since most broadband is slower for uploading than downloading.
Don’t understand the fuss, if you need more than 8gb then just upgrade it, it’s not like it’s not available.
Apple is really stingy. Even with the 15 Pro, it still starts with 128GB while the Max starts with 256GB.
Don’t buy the base model if you need more?
But the upgrade prices are ridiculous. If you wanted 16GB RAM and 1TB on a $1500 MacBook, you’d end up paying closer to $2000.
if only mba was 499$, but now, with talks about gaming which require 16gb at least, it won’t even run on most popular apple computer
Being an Apple shareholder must be so nice these days knowing that there will always be fanboys, shills, articles, etc. willingly suck Apple’s dick and defend their anti-consumer behaviours.
It’s almost 2024 guys.
I use a MacBook for basic needs. I have an 8GB M2 Air, I don’t really need a MacBook for what I use it for, but I’m in the ecosystem and enjoy what Mac has to offer within it, I love knowing that if and when I’m ready to push my MacBook further, I’ll be able to comfortably. 8GB is enough for me and likely always will be enough.
Everybody of course is different, but I’m an average user and it’s more than plenty for me
This is why I’m considering a M2 MBA. The most I do is digital art and pixel art, neither of which are generally super intensive unless I’m working on something particularly high res—even then I’ve only hit the RAM layer limit in Procreate exactly one time on my IPP.
i have both an m1 mac mini 8 gb, and a m1 pro max 32 gb mac studio. from my experience, 8gb is enough for any hobbyist basic stuff. even music production which i was doing unless youre doing professional level 100+ channel heavy sample based VST instruments… 8gb is enough. i used it on a professional level for 2 years with 8gb before i upgraded to the 32 gb mac studio
Yup. I upgraded from Intel to M3 Pro this week and do music production outside of work (IT). Love the ports, love the colour and battery life. Salary sacrificed so it’s around 40% cheaper too. It’s a great machine