• Sacto1654@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    What we will get is multiple app stores under the App Store app. Sideloading runs a very risk of injecting malware unless Apple is willing to introduce the iOS equivalent of Windows Defender we’ve seen since Windows 8.0, in my opinion.

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You can! You don’t even need to wait or pay for anything, you can have PPSSPP and any other emulator on your phone in a matter of minutes.

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    1 year ago

    What if I buy a subscription outside of the app store like on a windows laptop from apps website or something will they still charge me more if I the download the app on an iPhone and sign into my account?

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    1 year ago

    Why is iPhone the only OS that’s so insecure that it can’t let users install apps the usual way?

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      1 year ago

      It isn’t. People in these comments have zero clue as to what they’re talking about. Sideloading is no worse than downloading a program on your computer. If you use your brain, you won’t get a virus. What a surprise!

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    1 year ago

    Of course this is the angle they take, because they know they’re going to be forced to actually have to compete.

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      1 year ago

      Compete against what lol. Apps? They have their native apps and you can opt for third party developer apps in the app store. You can even delete most of the native apps. The thing with opinion is people can talk shit for free, not even using a valid argument.

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        1 year ago

        Are you stupid? The EU courts are forcing Apple to allow third party app storrs specifically because of competition.

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    1 year ago

    I see that one of the bigger reasons why people want sideloading so bad is to pirate apps they don’t want to buy.

    I can assure that a developer would likely take the 30% cut from the App Store versus trying your luck on other stores like Play Store, Galaxy Store, with the added risk of someone pirating your app and missing out on potential revenue.

    Unpopular opinion but iOS doesn’t need sideloading. What does need sideloading is the goddamn iPad. It’s the most neglected product by Apple and giving it sideloading capabilities allows devs to make the most out of the M1/M2 chip.

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I sideload because I fucking hate ads on YouTube, and it’s literally impossible to use the official app without losing brain cells from the endless ads. I also like being able to have emulators on my phone, which is something I’ve been doing since around 2013.

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      1 year ago

      what exactly is there to do on the iPad that you cannot do right now without sideloading?

      the only thing I can think of is Apple’s $99 annual fee to develop for their platforms.

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        1 year ago

        You cannot use an iPad as a developer platform. There’s no Xcode or Compiler, providing one is against the App Store policy so those apps just don’t exist in a meaningful manner.

    • Osstj7737@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I’ll use it to get around geo locked apps. For example, the PlayStation app is not available in my country which is very annoying. Same for PayPal and some others.

    • HypocritesEverywher3@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Only reason that you don’t want side loading is if you support Apple’s unethical business practices. Nobody is forcing you to sideload apps. I’m thrilled to be able to sideload

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        How is it unethical? It’s Apple’s business. If you don’t like Whopper Whopper Whopper then get a Big Mac. Free Market? Hello?

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      1 year ago

      Any nice apps made by single devs that don’t want to pay the apple tax will become available to everyone and be much more common. But yeah that’s a niche use case.

    • RagnarDannes@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      When I was an android user, I would sideload every now and then. Not one did I pirate. On iOS FOSS apps pretty much don’t exist or are buried among forks that add mountains of ads and garbage.

      On the App Store, they restrict away the kinds of apps that have a ton of value. For example, Microsoft can’t release their cloud gaming platform as an app, instead we have to use a neutered pwa.

      Just give me freedom and don’t treat me like a criminal or child because I want to use apps that mommy Apple doesn’t approve of.

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    Still don’t understand with those mentality that hates anything that against Apple’s decision. Like, what’s wrong with having more option? Mac already has this for decades and is that becomes a disaster I don’t think so?

    “BuT hoW aBouT tHoSe tEcH iLLiTeRaTe pEoPLe” you, as someone who understands tech, should teach them, to not install anything outside App Store. It ain’t that hard. It’s not my fault if you’re too lazy to do that.

    And finally, this side loading can gives me much more positive impact. First, no more Safari-based 3rd part browser. I can finally install a real Chrome that based on Blink, or a real Firefox that based on Gecko. Second, I can install some older games/apps that’s no longer available on App Store (literally also some advantage of having a Windows device/Android, you can run old apps on it). And last, emulators, baby! Can wait to use my iPad Mini as some Switch or PS3 emulator. Don’t forget about FOSS too, but I won’t mention it here.

    What are you waiting for? Piracy? Hahaha but no, that’s not the main reason why we loves side loading.

    • Armyboy94@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Are there any browsers like this already for those that do sideload or are these just examples?

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    1 year ago

    This is exciting news, I can’t wait to be able to sideloads the apps I want without using the Apple one. Having this on my Pixel (for YEARS AND YEARS) has been amazing.

    It’s my phone, I bought it with my own money.

  • Lazy-Street779@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Nope. Sticking with Apple Store for apps. I have never had a break-in on my iPhone and I plan to keep it that way.

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You won’t get that even if you sideload, lol. Have fun paying a monthly fee to be able to watch YouTube videos without being bombarded by cancerous ads, though! I’m enjoying the ad-free experience with my sideloaded YouTube app, all the while being “break-in”-free since the day I first downloaded an emulator.

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      1 year ago

      Just dont be stupid while side loading. Unless you are so incompetent that you would click on the first free money app there is almost 0 chance of malware

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    I think whenever sideloading becomes a thing the most reasonable solution to me is to make it only doable by injection through a program on a Mac or pc.

    It would still allow anyone that really wants to get a program to have it, and the program itself could still self update without having to plug back in, but it would add that one extra step that would keep your average person from accidentally downloading something they shouldn’t.

    Like my grandma. If sideloading were on a phone and just had to click okay a couple extra times, she might accidentally do it. If she had to plug it in to download initially, she’d think is this something that I need?

    • UrAlexios@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You will probably need to enable developer mode (a few clicks and a restart) and then confirm something like 30 times in order to install an app. You won’t be able to do it by default, that would be just stupid.

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    May be Apple wouldn’t have been forced to allow sideloading if they hadn’t resorted to monopolistic practices and extorted profits from developers.

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    1 year ago

    Just to share a bit…in my country we have had a huge influx of cases in android users getting scammed of their entire life savings because they were socially engineered/tricked to sideload malicious apps that basically allow the scammers full control of their phones, siphoning all their life savings away before they even realize what’s going on. These cases come up in the local news/online news once every 1-2 weeks.

    These people aren’t all grandmas/grandpas either. They’re also young people in their 30s or middle-aged. They tried to purchase something on offer / complete a survey to get a gift, and were tricked to download apps to make orders / something similar, but ended up having their phones fully under the control of the scammers. The scammers then made use of their internet banking apps to siphon everything out while they were asleep. To make things worse, over here we have almost everyone on internet banking.

    Definitely am not for iPhone being able to sideload apps. It is so dangerous for regular users. They wouldn’t understand what it means.

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      You can’t protect stupid people for too long when they don’t want to be protected. Let evolution do its thing.

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      People still get scammed in other ways, apps that are bad actors aren’t the problem.

      If it didn’t happen thru sideloading an app it would simply happen by accessing a website.