• chaogomu@kbin.social
    39·
    1 year ago

    I can honestly say that I ran Slackware as my daily driver for almost two years…

    Never again.

    Now I run easy distros. Much less stress overall.

    • Magusbear@lemmy.ml
      11·
      1 year ago

      Did the same. I pretty much had to redo every single step, sometimes multiple times, because I did not fully understand what I was doing. But I had a running system in the end with everything working as far as I could tell.

      Then I immediately formatted everything and installed Endeavor, because I just didn’t trust myself not having done anything wrong.

      It did help with understanding though. Some things aren’t as scary anymore and I understand the arch wiki much better now.

    • phorq@lemmy.ml
      12·
      1 year ago

      Nah, that sounds like torture. Anybody willing to have that kind of setup shouldn’t be messed with, they’re clearly unstable.

  • riodoro1@lemmy.world
    26·
    1 year ago

    Guys, why are you constantly making fun of arch. It really is a straightforward, stable and user friendly distro. The wiki is amazing and it’s very easy to find help even when you run into problems.

    Oh, I use arch btw.

      • vixven_random@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 year ago

        In my 8 years of using Arch as daily driver, it has broken only couple of times for me, and usually I can find the fixes in the forums. Ubuntu on the other hand has lead to so much pain.

        • eric5949@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 year ago

          The only time I’ve had arch break is when I either was new and didn’t know what I was doing after not updating for months or I did something it told me probably wasn’t going to work.

  • lawrence@lemmy.world
    11·
    1 year ago

    I never used Manjaro or Arch (I am a fedora user). Can someone please explain the joke?

    • denast@lemmy.world
      11·
      1 year ago

      Arch takes a lot of manual configuration to make it work, hence providing some bragging rights about using it. Manjaro is a fork that has your typical GUI user-frienly installer that does everything for you, therefore you “proudly using arch” has no substance as you did zero work.

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        I wonder why I keep getting the advice to use Arch, then? Everyone on the Linux forum questions me using fedora and says arch makes more sense and is easier.

        • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
          4·
          1 year ago

          It’s the latest craze among the DIY Linux crowd. Like what gentoo used to be. It has a very opinionated fanbase so they will advertise whenever they see an opening. Hence the "I use arch "btw meme

          • OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org
            5·
            1 year ago

            Is it really the latest craze? Arch seems to be about as popular/controversial as it was when I first tried it in 2014.

            Obligatory disclaimer: I still use Arch, btw :^)

          • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            It’s just weird that they specifically mentioned it was easier for beginners when it seems like it’s the exact opposite from what I’ve personally experienced on SteamOS versus my laptop that runs Nobara.

            • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              Some of the Arch variants are very easy to use. E.g. Manaro and Garuda give you the ease that Fedora does but with the ‘bragging rights’ of Arch. Except like this meme is pointing out they aren’t considered ‘pure Arch’ by many.

              I’ve installed Arch manually before several times but I got fed up of the process and now use ArcoLinux on my latest laptop. It makes install easy and I know enough to fix any issues from past experience.

              NB: Arch has been rock solid for a good 10yrs for me.

        • mwqer@programming.dev
          2·
          1 year ago

          Because Manjaro isnt exactly as it seems. Sometimes it’s the worst of both worlds. I wont deny that it is convenient but (Rant alert) : The idea of delay Arch packages for testing seems nice at first, until you take in the fact Manjaro will have to push some of the packages out before that period for e.g: security reasons, while some might take longer. The thing is, upstream Arch repo is designed to work together only on the packages upstream version, and as per Archwiki said, partial upgrade is highly unrecommended, and it is not uncommon to update your manjarobox and everything went smoothly, until you reboot and fallen into a dependency hell. Sometimes it can cause serious security issues. And with that in mind, the AUR also works with the assumption that you are on Arch’s upstream packages, not Manjaro one, and well, dont need to tell you how it can cause problems down the line.

          If you want a good convenient no “nerd” fuss distros, I recommend Pop!OS, Mint, or even Debian. If you really want to use AUR (trust me it’s not as special as most expect, you generally only want to go there when you must) and really don’t wanna use Arch, there’s projects like Antergos, Artix,… that have much more sane approach.

          I acknowledge tho that I 100% believe Manjaro users can get perfectly stable experience, and these things I mentioned had never be inside their scope. It’s just you can get very similar experience with better management even in Arch-derived space, so why not go for those instead?

    • TrontheTechie@infosec.pub
      8·
      1 year ago

      If arch Linux is supposed to be edgy and hard to use or install, Manjaro takes that edgy hard to use image and softens it up into a Ubuntu type distro that is based on arch but tends to run behind on updates by a little bit compared to arch.

      Basically they nerd version of Linux stolen valor.

  • Emi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    Manjaro Users: I could never be bothered to follow the steps for installing on the arch wiki.

    Manjaro Users When Something Breaks: Gotta go check the arch wiki & forums.