This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image, https://hub.docker.com/_/redis, but it’s just a bunch of blogs.
On DuckDuckGo the first result is the Docker Hub image, which is what everyone would want.
Google definitely has its moments of returning crap results, but you chose a terrible example.
Results from both docker and redis, on topic for exactly what you asked for.
Why even use Google at all, when you could search docker hub If that’s what you knew you wanted.
You asked for docker redis image, received docker.com talking about redis, and redis.io talking about docker
Idk that seems pretty on the point to me
Yeah, I don’t see the problem here. Those are the pages with the download links (and also instructions to use them, for folks who need it)
What did you want, a direct download link to a file? An FTP site?
You literally got what you asked for. There are plenty of examples of Google search sucking, this is you just being pissy because there’s instructions on a download page.
This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image, https://hub.docker.com/_/redis,
That’s what they wanted and it’s the first result in seemingly every other search engine.
With such a query the first expected result would be https://hub.docker.com/_/redis, and then blog posts if really that’s what you want.
On my device I cannot find a link to dockerhub at all with the same query.
No, it wouldn’t. If you wrote dockerhub instead of docker, then it would be. Or maybe a “site:” dork.
If you think that’s bad, try googling something related to Android.
All the results are shitty blog posts full of padding text with grammar and spelling mistakes.For anyone wondering, here’s that same query in DDG (zoomed out to show same amount of results)
This is the moment I switch to DDG. I started using google in 2003 and I think I’m done now.
This is definitely what I’d want if I search for this
idk… the first two results seem both relevant and authoritative.
It’s a garbage blog that starts as an ad for Docker Hub, that’s clearly not what I want.
Clearly? Your keywords are docker and reddis… here is a page, from docker.com talking about that exact thing.
How can you automate the relevance of the page? manually review? block all blog (some blogs are good).
Google uses signals, like you clicking on other links, to determine the quality of results, so your terminal click is the high quality result.
You complain the first result is an ad for docker hub, but your stated desired result is … docker hub…
But couldnt they active their brain during development? Or have for the big websites that have something special a special case?
for example on docker you dont want ugly Blogs from them you want the images if you ask for docker IMAGENAME. They know the path paterns /ORG/IMAGENAME.
If you have issues then you will query docker how to use IMAGENAME or similar then the blog would be perfect. Otherwise useless information.
your taking your human level domain specific knowledge of a specific site structure - and generalizing it to a search engine. How is the search engine going to know the best result to give you?
If a search is for docker NAME image so google shows users
- A - blog talking about NAME image from Docker.com taking users step by step
- B - direct link to the hub.docker.com for IMAGE with nothing else, but the download page
Which result is going to get more terminal, and high quality clicks from searchers?
Realizing that many of the people who are using docker daily are either going to already go to the hub directly, or do site:hub.docker.com in some quick search bar
The population of searchers who find the A result more beneficial is probably higher then the B result, most people prefer step by step instructions and some hand holding when searching. The pros who have a groove and rythem, I suspect, have more direct ways to get what they want.
While google can improve, i’m not seeing this as gore, the relevant result this user wanted was the 5th link, and the first 2 links both got them there as well.
ok boomer then use “docker pull” why are you Googling it
Probably to lookup what are the possible environment vars for the container.
The second one is relevant official documentation tho
I’m confused then. If you were looking for a docker image, why not start in hub.docker.com?
I’m not an expert in containers, but I know enough to know if I am looking for an image, I go to docker hub.
You may not be a developer, but the first expected result with that query would be a link to https://hub.docker.com/_/redis
Google is really bad at this for some reason and will point you to blogs that as a dev I don’t care in the slightest. Hell, using the same query I cannot find a single link to dockerhub on my device, it’s extremely frustrating
I’m a developer and I’d much rather have the docs. Who the fuck can remember FROM reddis?
It’s important to look at the dockerhub page to see the available tags (I usually prefer smaller images like alpine)
The usage docs for the docker image should be in the dockerhub readme.
But the first result to the query
docker redis imageshould be the dockerhub entry, followed maybe by blog posts and tutorials.Otherwise you can query something like
redis docorredis docker tutorial.
I agree with OP here, these results are not great.
OP searched for the redis docker image, not a tutorial on how to use it, not a tutorial on why redis should be run in docker, and did not search for redis docker docs. While these are relevant, they should be further down, not the top result. DDG gets this right, and I’m pretty sure other search engines do too.
For a total newbie, these results are probably OK, but for a technical person who knows what they want literally as they type it, Google’s results are (excuse my french) simply shit. DDG is miles better at handling this stuff, and they don’t need your personal data to do it well either.
Edit: Just went and searched “redis docker image” in a private tab on Google, and the docker hub image for Redis is not even shown on the first page of results
man SEO really has managed to break search. There’s so many random blogs that just have pretty much just your search terms in the title and rarely have anything else of use.
There’s usually just AI-generated meandering with no actual information in it.
This search should obviously return the official Docker Hub Redis image
It’s the 5th result for me.
Don’t really see the “gore” … those are all relevant results.
The “gore” is “Google bad.” Not really much else to it.
I searched for help on a game I was playing the other day and got 300 results, all the same forum post. Like, the exact same post 300 times
On kagi, the first result is also the docker hub link. This example is not actually that bad though, the first 2 results at least still relevant (from docker and redis domains) instead of some random blogspam (3rd result).
Funny I unintentionally searched kagi with the keywords in the wrong order - and got it in the first result
It’s the second result for me.
Kagi is so good
The results you got make perfect sense, if you knew exactly what you wanted, why were you using a search engine to begin with? If you wanted the docker redis image, why didn’t you just go to it directly instead of searching for it? Do you put your home address into a GPS and follow it turn by turn, or do you just go home?
That doesn’t make any sense, wanted to find the image, don’t know the link by heart.
Then you need to be more specific with your search, while I don’t use Google because I don’t like being data mined, I just tried “download docker redis image” and that page with everything was the first result.
When I tried exactly what you put in, on DDG, that image was the first thing that showed.
If you’ve vague, it’s going to rank shit based on a ton of things that make it believe one is more popular than another. That’s the literal job of a search engine.
(Typically) when people want a docker image, they go to docker hub, not to search engines. If you’d gone to docker hub one word on the search box (redis) would have given you the image.
Or since we’re talking docker, and you knew what you wanted to install a simple “docker pull redis” would have taken care of it.
Is searching for a specific object really such a weird thing? Op is clearly asking for a file, but the search engine is overoptimized for blog posts
It’s optimized for what algorithms tell it will be the best response, no different than any other one. If you want keyword search only, don’t use Google. If you don’t want to be datamined, don’t use Google. If you want a docker image, search for it on Docker hub, not a search engine.
Have to say I’m a bit surprised by all the replies that are completely fine with all the results being SEO ridden blogs instead of something useful, for example have you tried searching for a recipe in the last year, 1000 word blog and then the recipe as an extra.
The results you’ve highlighted aren’t “all the results”, they’re the ones you’ve screenshotted to make your point.
One is from dockers website, the other is official redis docs, the results aren’t that bad.
There is an issue with Google’s search these days, this post is just not a great example.
We are reacting to the high quality search results you used in your example as terrible.
You didn’t post about a recipe search
The top two results you’ve posted here aren’t even SEO blogs, they’re official sources. Recipe sites have been bullshit since long, long, long before the past year and the current trend of SEO enshittification. This argument doesn’t hold water.
I think most people are just used to Google, I used to be several years ago before moving to DDG.
Now I find Google is way too… “tutorially” and “bloggy” with results, and actually slows down my workflow a lot when I’m looking for a specific thing immediately - usually a bit of scrolling to get what I’m looking for.
DDG (for my use case as a casual search engine, and something to search docs for work) gets you to whatever you want with a much, much shorter and concise query, and pretty much always gets it right each time as the first result
Isn’t duckduckgo just bing with disabled tracking?
cough-bing is actually alright, sorry-cough
Just for fun let’s compare the search results of docker redis image:
- Google results - A, B, C, D*, E
- DDG results - E, A, B, F*, G*
- Bing results - A, E, B, C, G* (Bing throws up a bunch of Cards, which i ignored for these comparisons)
So more or less the same high quality results in the top 5 results across the engines, with a little reordering going on.
the* means blog spam.
- A - docker.com
- B - Redis.io
- C - github docker-library
- D* - Kinsta.com
- E - hub.docker.com
- F* - How to geek
- G* - phoenixnap
I had a similar experience today. I wanted to run a battlefield 2042 server and forgot the URL.
(It’s https://portal.battlefield.com)
So I google searched for “Run a battlefield 2042 server” thinking obviously that would lead to that page. Nope, all it gave me were blog posts and wikihow shit.
