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    It’s amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn’t even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

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      Republicans understand that demographics are against them, and their only chance is to whip their base into a froth while simultaneously making it harder for Others to vote.

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        Ding ding ding

        Just like it is every election season. Republicans rely on the electoral vote, propaganda, and systematic diseducation (idk if that’s even a word, case in point?) to ensure victories over the populace

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          “Education” is from Latin “educ” which means “lead out”. The reverse would be to lead in, which is “ducere in”. So if you want to make a new but old-fashioned word, I suggest “ducereination” or because the “e-i”" syllables are uncomfortable to say and would have likely been dropped over time, “ducerination”. The “c” might be pronounced as an “s” or as a “k” depending on how the word would have evolved since ancient times, but I prefer a “k” sound (which I think is the wrong one according to Google) so it sounds like the “c” in “education”.

          Note that I don’t know Latin.

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            I don’t know a goddamn thing about Latin grammar, but it looks like you could follow the etymology of “education” more closely. The “educ” part is itself derived from “ex ducere”, so we could probably have “inducation”

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              Y’all. Did you have your coffees this morning?

              There’s already an organically evolved etymologically rich word for the “passing of closed thinking”, that harkens back to “leading in” or Inducing…

              Indoctrination.

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                Yeah, but the right only agree that indoctrination exists when it’s colleges indoctrinating people into free-thought which they call being woke. Say that word to them and they’ll be like “rubber, glue, you” because that’s about as many syllables as the average right-winger can muster, and about as intelligent a complete thought as I expect from them as well.

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                  I guarantee you they’ll feel the same way if you say ducerination or inducation. Words they don’t understand are inherently an attack, just like woke, which originally meant someone or something that was championing the rights of people in modern times

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                    Probably because so many people make fun of their education system

                    Why be angry with the root cause of your problem when you have so many branches that look close enough to a root

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            Misinformation: Untrue or misleading information. Anyone can fall victim to it. Even the smartest among us can be misinformed.

            Disinformation: Intentionally untrue or misleading information. This is information that is targeted towards people who are most likely to fall victim to it: Suckers

            If you’re watching a show/video and the advertisements are mostly bullshit things like supplements, (legal) drugs, and/or weight loss products the show/video you’re watching is made for suckers. The folks selling these things know their marks.

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            See I didn’t like how that one fit, and it’s not that they’re outright feeding bad information (some are, sure) but that they withhold that info (I.e. banning books, taking whole curriculums straight up out (black history, us military history as related to global behavior in and out of war), etc

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      Yes. That is all she did. Got them to register to vote. She didn’t even hint at who they should vote for. That might change now, and not the way Republicans want.

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        Honestly, it’s such an incredible own goal. By aligning themselves in opposition to her, Republicans are begging for her fans to vote against them.

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      Correct. They’ve tacitly acknowledged for quite a while that discouraging their enemies from voting is a big part of their strategy, though, and I don’t think anyone involved thinks the Taylor Swift fans are also Trump fans.

      Honestly, if someone tries to tell you voting won’t change anything, just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it and how much they freak out about any indication that their enemies are planning to vote in large numbers.

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        It’s been going on ever since black people got the right to vote. It’s been suppress the vote ever since. Used to be let the radicals do their thing away from the party, now it’s imbedded in Fox and gop itself.

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        just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it a

        My city: 80% white, 20% Asian, and rich. Voting is super easy.

        City next to mine: nearly 100% POC. Every election multihour long waits to vote.

        Yes, I have tried to help but I can’t do much besides pass water bottles out and give out voter registration forms. They won’t let me be an election worker unless I live there.

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      Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat. Republicans do better when less people vote.

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        Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat many more people want to vote for Democrats.

        Though your original version is also correct.

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          Yes, absolutely. If we made voting mandatory, made Election Day a national holiday, and actually managed to get our turnout over 90%, the Democrats would landslide every election and the Republicans know it.

          An awful lot of Republican policy makes sense when you view them as a party with a shrinking base. They’re trying to eek out what they can before shifting over to a new base.

          Rubio, Cruz, and De Santis have been trying to build Hispanic bases, though none of them are really charismatic enough to pull it off.

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            Who would think that 3 personally repulsive people from the Let’s Kill Immigrants and Deport Their Families Party would have trouble making inroads with Latino voters? It’s a real mystery!

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              You’d be surprised how much of the Latino community are folks like the descendants of the Cuban bourgeoisie who fled Cuba when the communists took over, devout Catholics, people who jumped through all the hoops to immigrate legally and are really salty about the ones who took shortcuts, etc.

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            their ideology is literally and metaphorically dying off and the only way they can retain power is by destroying democracy. everything they do is to make sure people can’t vote them out, up to and including a fascist coup

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              Either that or run on a platform people actually want to vote for, but yeah the destroying democracy thing is probably easier.

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      Here she is speaking about Republicans in a 2020 documentary. I would say it’s a bit more than asking people to register.

      Edit to add: She comes across so genuinely in this clip, I really love it. Listen to her speak and then think of any time you’ve ever heard Trump speak. I can understand why they feel threatened.

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      That may as well have been a direct attack against the GOP. Their whole motus operandi is suppressing the vote and voter apathy, keep people away from the polls and sick of the whole process. They don’t really need to run a better campaign than their opponent, just make their opponents’ supporters so sick of all the noise and both-sidesing everything, they just sit out the whole thing because there’s no difference between anybody, right?

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      She endorsed Biden in 2020 so there is a good chance she will again.

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      It’s amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn’t even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

      Is it really amazing anymore? Bud Light sent one specially printed can to a trans influencer last year and they lost their shit for months. (You know everything they did, I’m sure, so I’m not going to catalogue it here.)

      Dumb? Yes.

      Ridiculous? Yes.

      Conservatives behaving in a way that shows us yet again just what kind of people they are? Yes.

      Amazing? No.