Thanks for sharing.

Most YouTubes use 10x different titles for a video and change them every say 30min to see which one gets the most clicks.

Veratasium did a great video about this, and why he’s also forced to do it to survive the YT algorithm

I watch John Oliver a lot I like his content and agree with the vast majority of what he says.

I also like watching right wing stuff so I don’t end up in a echo chamber, I find most right wing stuff rediculous. But there’s some crazy thigns happening that I wouldn’t be aware of if I didn’t watch it so I’m glad I do/did

What is the point of devisions if anyone is allowed to compete in them?

Sport has always had devisions and you need to draw lines who is and isn’t allowed in a devision.

Example: Under 21 years old Undee 80kg Handicapped Ober 40 years old Women’s Etc.

You can’t just let anyone compete in any devision else you don’t have devisions, and you need to draw lines where those devisions begin and end.

All I’m saying is IMO when it comes to the Women’s devision, it’s shouldn’t be black and white.

I’d think swimming, but a better example might be basketball.

Going through male puberty would make you taller than you would have otherwise been, and in basketball beign taller gives you an advantage.

I can accept spots deciding for themselves.

However a lot of sports have decided that trans women who went through male puberty aren’t allowed in their women’s devision.

Insults again, I’m done talking to you. I want a civil discussion.

Look at the sub you are in.

I feel the way I do, and I am open to having my mind changed. Getting angry at me and immediately using insults like shut your fucking piehole isn’t going to change my mind, and is against the rules of this sub.

I would like to have my mind changed, if I’m not allowed to have a conversation about how I feel, how is that going to happen?

Basing the rules of your sports on the feelings and biases of spectators sounds wild.

and is open for abuse, if most spectators want to disqualify a person because they don’t like them, they would be able to.

We can’t set a limit on testosterone levels, because then biological women like Caster Semenya, who naturally has high testosterone, are forced to take T blockers (This actually happened to her)

And wouldn’t that allow women to dope up until an acceptable level?

Where do you draw the line?

Jeeeze relax, Read the about of the sub.

This is not a safe space nor an echo-chamber, you come here to discuss in a civilized way, no flaming, no insults!

I’m trying to have a conversation, after all the insults I’m done talking to you.

How is that productive? I’m open to having my mind changed and would like to have a conversation about this. Calling someone a bigot does nothing to change their mind and is against the rules of c/controversial

What about eg. Anne Andres setting multiple national and world power lifting records?

Studies show that biological mens hands are 20%+ bigger than biological women.

HRT isn’t going to make your hands 20% smaller, bigger hands give you an advantage in many sports eg. swimming.

What testosterone level you were at during puberty has a big impact on the size of your bones. So it’s not that simple.

People who had high testosterone during puberty have much bigger hands than people who didn’t, hand size has a impact on sports.

Let’s use combat sports, how would you measure “approximate physical ability” ?

If you just go by weight and don’t split the genders, biological women won’t stand a chance.

Thanks, I will give it a watch I enjoy his content. I have a controversial opinion but I’m open to have my mind changed.

IMO having bigger bones is an advance in many sports.

HRT isn’t going to make your bone structure significantly smaller

How do you even begin to measure that?

Hight, bone density, muscle weight etc plays such a massive role.

The topic of trans women in sports is a complex one and not black and white.

If Usain Bolt identified as a women and underwent the required procedures (not sure what that would be if any) Should he be allowed to compete in women’s sports?