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  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyzGreat Mug
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    7 months ago

    we define “science” as the aggregate consciousness of scientific researchers

    This is something I wish I could preach convincingly to everyone. The activity of scientists, a social group, are arguing and trying to convince one another that their interpretation of the data acquired by using their tools and methods is what become a scientific consensus.

    Forefronting the method (often a vaguely defined one rooted in a hypo-deductive model from about 150 years ago that most people learned in grade school) removes the relationships between people and other people and people and institutions.

    I wish I could find the paper but there’s a wonderful enthographic study on how scientists interact with each other to transform the discourse.

    Edit: Found it! Science as Social Knowledge: Values and Objectivity in Scientific Inquiry by Helen E. Longino









  • I’m not denying that modern evolutionary theories use math and I think it’s important, but that in many sciences, math isn’t the focus like it is in physics. A lot of good science can be done without math. Darwin did good science without math.

    To be very clear, science doesn’t need math. We use math as a tool to accurately describe phememona and relationships with math.

    I don’t what you are saying about models being mathematical by definition eben if people can handle it. I don’t see how the model of the cell is mathematical. Models require relationships and not mathematics to describe those relationships.



  • I hate how we center physics and it’s use of mathematical tools as the right way of doing science. Many, if not all sciences today, leverage mathmatical tools to create models. But Darwin, as far as I recall, didn’t use math at all. A whole host of sciences don’t approach their problems through mathematically described laws or even statistical models. Earth sciences, botany, anatomy, organic chemistry, ethnography, and archelogy come to mind.