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  • because if you vote for actually progressive policy, rather than talk about it and vote against it, you’re a bad person.

    no, you’re just an asshole for acting like an asshole; none of the dumb bullshit you’ve brought up is relevant. You Are Missing The Point, you were told straight up that they are inclined to agree with you, stop arguing with people in your head.

    Now please write another paragraph about how what I said relates to some personal burden of yours again.






  • You are also missing the point

    Even if you guys are right, and im inclined to agree with you, you both sound like smug assholes

    You can say things without being an asshole, but

    you know also what makes someone a smug asshole? budgeting, eating right, exercising, and all the stuff we all know that are good for us

    is just being an asshole for no reason. Nobody said or implied any of those thing, they’re just tilting at windmills because they want to talk shit and don’t like being told they’re talking shit.

    They didn’t even initially mention privilege, just “young people,” so being told to tone down the hate is warranted.










  • OP is about people who hate your cause giving you advice

    Yes, and the person I replied to is about how sometimes we need to take advice to communicate better. I simply agreed by saying assuming the worst of all criticism (using the same phrasing as the OP, because it’s applicable to more than just concern trolls) is not conductive to functional communication.

    You have twisted that in your own head to be “criticism is from people who hate me”.

    No, you’ve inferred that. I don’t think the OP meant that, but what they said could very easily be used that way, which is why I borrowed the phrasing. Because there are absolutely people that think that way.

    By strawmanning OP into that position (cause, again, that’s not what they’re saying)

    But that is the actual wording of the post. Someone gives criticism -> they hate you and your cause. OP may only specifically be thinking about concern trolls, but that is a rationale one can use to dismiss all criticism, which is what I asserted to be counterproductive.

    you force your interpretation of their words to juxtapose against your implied position, creating the false dichotomy. You either agree with OP that all critiques come from haters so you should ignore them all, or you don’t

    I think you’re the one forcing an interpretation here, and that’s still not a dichotomy. Even if I accused OP of saying all criticism is from haters, I’m not advocating listening to all criticism, just to not make assumptions.

    This doesn’t mean that Hasan Piker should take to heart the criticism that Fox News loves to heap on him, cause they want to see him fail. Does that make sense?

    Of course it does, and it fits entirely within what I’ve said. If you want to continue this analogy, my reply says “don’t assume everyone criticizing Hasan is Fox News”

    I never said, or implied, that OP is applying “hates you and your cause” to all criticism, just that some people do, and it should be avoided.

    If you think my statement is unspecific and implies that of OP, fair enough, but then you should also accept that the OP is unspecific enough be misapplied to all criticism.


  • but your emphasis turns the position from “we do also need to be open to criticism” to “those who agree with OP apply this advice to all critics”

    I don’t think you understood what I said. It’s not a dichotomy at all

    You twisted it into “all criticism is haters, who you should never listen to”.

    That’s the implication of the OP. Someone says this isn’t helpful -> they hate you and what you believe in. If you disagree with that, congrats we agree.

    Which then implies the other position is to be open to all criticism, thus the false dichotomy.

    You inferred that, I didn’t imply that; my statement had no either-or. It’s really the same message. I never said anything about accepting all criticism or rejecting all criticism, the dilemma is in your head. The meaning behind what I said is “don’t assume the worst of criticism,” you are twisting that into whatever you came up with.