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  • This is very deresponsibilizing though. I don’t think you can explain mass phenomena with it. To me it seems more reasonable to conclude that gender is not that relevant here and that social conditions, education, family upbringing etc. are.

    how much they have been manipulated since childhood to be against their own autonomy

    And how do you explain poor people voting against their economic interests, immigrants voting for xenophobic parties etc.? I don’t think that individual abuse can be used to explain every case, it feels as a way to rationalize something you can’t justify otherwise (e.g., it’s unimaginable how a woman would vote against her own autonomy). I do believe that everyone in a way is a victim of some kind of influence, marketing, societal pressure, class violence, different biases etc., but we need to draw a line at some point for people to be responsible for their shitty ideas.

    To make an example, an immigrant who went through a tough immigration process, with all the anxiety and insecurity it caused, and finally managed to make it is probably going to suffer heavily of survivorship bias and it’s not impossible they will be xenophobic against illegal immigrants and perhaps will even vote for whom proposes harsher immigration policies. You can argue that society abused them etc., but they are still responsible for their ideas.

    So my point is that I don’t disagree with you, but we can find exogenous reasons for why people have shitty ideas in all cases. Doing so though we deresponsibilize the individual from checking with themself and reflecting on their own positions. I think it’s fair to consider that some people simply have shitty ideas, are greedy, selfish, racist, classist, or whatever else, without necessarily trying to trace back those ideas to some external factor.



  • There are plenty of women in far right/neo-fascist etc. groups, and often people from those groups have relationships with other people from those groups. Your comment gives very much the impression that only males are fascists, which is absolutely not my experience dealing with Forza Nuova/Casapound people (both neo-fascists parties) in my youth.

    I also see the male loneliness epidemic as an orthogonal problem to males being fascists, but that’s yet another topic.








  • Not to worry, the mainline of hexbear and .ml regarding Ukraine is completely messed up. They have a completely west-centric view and lack any serious context whatsoever.

    Unfortunately stalinists can’t accept that the Soviet Union had plenty of flaws and oppressed people, including workers, in many ways. Instead of learning the lesson to avoid repeating past mistakes they just double-down.

    I had a conversation once when someone called all the baltics “Nazi hotbeds” and to support this claim they linked a law that is gradually removing Russian schools in favour of having Russian as a foreign language. Someone was telling me that “people have a right to have education in Russian” and failing to provide that is a human rights violation. I asked to show me a country in which education in foreign language is a right, but sadly didn’t get any answer. I have also then linked soviet laws that forbid teaching in Ukrainian, and surprisingly I didn’t get any answer either.

    I have also provided some interesting sources from Ukrainian leftists, one specifically was from a historian. But obviously the American fella on Lemmy - who doesn’t speak a word of any language which is not English, never read anything from a non-western source, lacks cultural context etc. - knows better.

    I think life is too short to deal with silly things, and even shorter to deal with idiots. I - a communist from Western Europe - ended up blocking both instances because I have no interests in being associated with zealots of a Stalinist cult.


  • I understood what you meant, not sure why you would assume otherwise. My point is that there is no need to invent new business models. Your proposal is similar to “pay with your data”, a new business model that has negative consequences for the collectivity.

    In case of these types of games, a flat rate for the game and potentially a pay-per-use without margin to cover hosting (minimal, can be factored in the initial price) and API calls (gMaps) could be an option. Or none of this, and they factor in the cost already in the initial purchase. Either way, to come back to the topic of discussion, asking a one year subscription for a game sold for free (to lure people in) is IMHO predatory behavior with no excuse.

    Anyway, tl;dr money already exists and people can pay for that, we don’t need to waste more computing power to find an alternative. The use of crypto incentives the overall crypto market which causes even more people (or companies) to waste energy for nothing.





  • If they do, they are really bad at it. They are basically a close community and they got isolated even in a tiny community like (the wider) Lemmy.

    I do remember a fun anecdote where a post was shared from a propaganda website, one of those that would appear here. The article was clearly faked, the alleged “Ukrainian Nazi profile” on Instagram didn’t exist, the same news couldn’t be found in Russian (only in English) and the text was the same across 3-4 random websites. They were discussing it seriously of course, but between them, which again, to me suggest more an echo chamber rather than a deliberate effort to push propaganda.

    Either way, I did block generously :)

    Edit: it was easy to find from my modlog, since I was banned for “Nazi apologia” of course. https://lemm.ee/post/37342752


  • Yeah, their cult’s position on Ukraine is simply atrocious. They cannot deal with the fact that Russia is an imperialistic nation and since Ukraine is supported by US (if we can say that) this makes it easy for them.

    This is why if you discuss that in Ukraine 15k civilians died since 2022 only they will tell you that they are all Nazis, or that it’s Ukraine fault, because they use them as shields (same claim Israel does, but guess where they stand on that), or something like this.

    This attitude is then completely reinforced by being in a echo chamber with extreme peer pressure and silly moderation, so one’s opinion keeps being constantly entrenched.

    As a communist myself, my diagnosis is that that population is mostly 20-something westerners who grew up in the political vacuum post-1991 and adopted uncritically views of the cold war. Most of them probably feel an inherent guilt by living in countries where they benefit from everything they swear against, and the online cosplay as a revolutionary is their way to cope and self-identify as a person living by their own morals.

    My suggestion is to block generously.


  • There are enough links in this thread already showing that this is literally nazi propaganda

    Maybe you should practice a big dose of humility, considering that one comment up you were making stuff up about what words mean, and now you are misinterpreting a single quote about a single opinion about the holodomor that focuses purely on whether it was intentional or not.

    Calling it “Nazi propaganda” is just complete nonsense.

    To reiterate, “enough links in this thread” refers to one out of 16 views listed in a Wikipedia page, which for sure is not an exhaustive list of all scholars’ views. Nowhere is to be found that holodomor is “basically Nazi propaganda” and the fact you think anybody questioning your uninformed opinion is a Nazi apologist is just a mental shortcut you are taking to protect your views from any level of scrutiny.

    Maybe deal with the fact that you simply are not equipped to discuss this topic.


  • The intentionality of Holodomor is debated, but calling an event that killed millions of people and scarred generations “imaginary genocide” or “Nazi propaganda” like the other commenter did is deranged.

    The quote you posted is far from final. I won’t pretend to have the answer, but you presented one opinion as if it’s a mainstream and accepted view, when it’s not. Just Wikipedia shows multiple views, and I am sure that academic literature would present even more.

    So let’s be realistic and admit that if academic consensus can’t be reached by historians by now, you don’t have the truth in your pocket as nobody else does, and we won’t figure it out in a Lemmy conversation.