I understand your feedback and I apologize for my tone. I just cannot get on board with the idea a more progressive campaign would have garnered any more votes. The proof is in the pudding. New progressive challengers failed at taking down any Democrat stalwarts in their primaries. Even worse, progressive incumbents struggled to hold on. It’s important to call out that these problems in races existed months before Harris even entered the scene.

That is why I see the anger at Harris as misplaced. If more progressive policies were the true desire of voters, it would have shown in the primaries just like in 2018 and 2020. The winds were out of the sails.

Your comment perfectly encapsulates why progressives always lose. Will critique everything about the Presidential race but hard pressed to make a single comment about down ballot races.

I don’t care if you voted in the Presidential election or not. Get out there in every damn off-cycle election and make your voice heard and get your progressive candidates elected. School board, city council, congressman, whatever. Otherwise you’re just another idealist blowing smoke on the Internet.

I completely disagree and I think you’re missing the big picture. Progressivism collapsed under its own weight this year. You need to go back a few months earlier. Progressive candidates for down ballot races got absolutely decimated in their primaries.

Yes, economic hardship absolutely was the leading factor. Whether you wish to believe it or not, voters were blaming far-left/progressive policies for the economic mess. That’s the messaging Trump ran on, and that’s the messaging that won. Plain and simple.

Things were so bad for progressives that they had nothing left to champion other than justice for Palestine. The outrage against student loan forgiveness was absolutely brutal. Treating homelessness became an unmanageable and very noticeable problem. Hospitals are literally failing and there wasn’t a peep about Medicare for all. Hell, not once did progressives talk about increasing minimum wage this year.

I believe progressives are misinterpreting the voter alignment on defunding Israel. It’s absolutely wild progressives don’t talk to actual voters. The overall sentiment is isolationism. In other words, complete apathy towards genocide as long as it doesn’t cost me my wallet.

Personally, I would be worried if I was you. The first Trump term can’t be compared as he had some guardrails with his recommended cabinet picks from the traditional GOP. Now that those GOP members have been expelled from the party, those guardrails are no longer there. His cabinet picks are loyalists and is a stress test to weed out any non-loyalists in Congress.

His cabinet picks will have free will to do what they want as long as they do two things: 1) praise Trump for the popular things they accomplish and 2) take the fall or blame other groups if it’s not popular.

And it’s not the government coming after these groups that is most worrying. We all see the lengths regular citizens would go to right a perceived wrong. January 6 case in point.

We’ve all seen this film before. It doesn’t have a good ending.

At this point I believe the US simply can’t withhold support from Israel for some reason.

Isn’t it obvious? Israel is the only stable government in the region and provides the U.S. with valuable aid and resources in return. I’m not condoning the genocide. The hope was the alliance would outlive the Netanyahu government that is taking this action. Unfortunately, Trump winning means America lost its bargaining chip for ending the war peacefully.

since they just make money off fundraising against bad orangeman.

Golly-gee, it must be something to do with Trump being the GOP nominee for President for them to do that.

You are so brave to be condescending on the Internet. The classic holier-than-thou “earn my vote” position is another loser mentality. If we apply that standard to both campaigns, we can clearly see there was one person trying to earn votes. And that person lost. I’d argue Kamala should have been tougher and demanded votes.

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