• @PrimeErective@startrek.website
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    3423 days ago

    What part of you makes you? Is it just your brain?

    Anyway, I think what they’re getting at is that the shell is actually their spine, not like some extra thing that grows on top of their spine.

    • @GlenRambo@jlai.lu
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      1123 days ago

      Most ppl think they have a skeleton inside them. But If you think of you as your brain (as many would day). Then your actually inside your skeleton.

      • @PrimeErective@startrek.website
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        323 days ago

        What part of the second statement is wrong? A turtle cannot survive without its shell, just like you could not survive without your skull. It is an intrinsic part of what allows it to function as a living organism, therefore the line between “turtle” and “shell” is a bit blurred

          • @PrimeErective@startrek.website
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            623 days ago

            I mean yes, no one, human or turtle, can survive without the ecosystem of the earth, so you could really argue that the planet is the true organism and we are simply byproducts of its existence

              • @PrimeErective@startrek.website
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                323 days ago

                Where can you really draw the line? Could you survive in space without any air or equipment? Even if you could, where did the equipment and air come from?

                Photosynthetic organisms are for all practical purposes part of your lungs

                • @lowleveldata@programming.dev
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                  223 days ago

                  Me needing something doesn’t make that thing me, right? I need the sun to survive but neither the sun is part of me / I am part of the sun. Like, are you your skeleton? What about the other parts that are not bones then?

          • Tlaloc_Temporal
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            323 days ago

            You can bring extra air and survive just fine.

            You can’t bring an extra skull.

            Likewise, a hermit crab can bring an extra shell, but a turtle cannot bring an extra shell.