I’m seeing a lot of “We should have less defense budget and more health care budget” in these comments. But we don’t need more health care budget. The existing budget is more than enough to give us universal health care.
I know what you fuckers are really trying to say.
"We should have less defense budget and more health care budget"
I’m sorry, do you think it’s a good thing that we funnel huge amounts of money into the bank accounts of the people at the top of huge corporations making devices for destruction? I don’t.
Not exactly, but it’s actively harmful to the universal healthcare movement on multiple levels to have people believe it would cost the government more money than they are already spending.
The fact that it would cost less is already counterintuitive.
I get your point, I agree that the US has ample healthcare budget already; the US spends government significantly more budget money (proportionally) on social programs than the EU and most countries with universal and/or free healthcare, but has significantly worse outcomes because capitalism moment. I also agree that the US should value its ability to fight wars. We don’t need to lower our military budget in order to get better healthcare, we need to get rid of liberal capitalism and replace it with heavy regulation or (preferrably but unrealistically) socialism…
That being said, when our military supplies are being used to bomb Palestinian kids, it’s harder to feel justified in giving the military money that could go towards our extremely broken social welfare, which is where others are coming from
Or to not get too in the weeds, specific to healthcare just take an off the shelf single payer program that already works well in any number of countries.
It’s only hard because of conservative opposition. Vote those bastards out, and elect enough progressives to override the conservative Dems.
We probably would have an extremely robust universal and free healthcare plan by now if it weren’t for certain crucial legislatures being filled with conservatives; Truman tried pretty hard to give America universal healthcare, plus civil rights and the best social welfare in the first world in general, but he was stopped in his tracks by a coalition of conservative Democrats and Republicans. Obama also likely would have gotten us universal healthcare if a portion of the Democrats under him were less conservative – he went for the ACA because he knew that would pass, even if it was sub-par.
It’s a shame how Truman couldn’t achieve his goals in office, otherwise I feel we would probably be far better off, and leading the first world in social welfare. Truman was dead-set on bolstering New Deal policies including extremely progressive taxation and better social programs – the same policies which were the foundation of America’s greatest economic success, which is a big part of why recession hit after his conservative Republican second legislator came in and started opposing him. We likely wouldn’t even have had Reagan if it went differently – his election was mostly a reaction to the perceived failures of Carter (which were in reality mostly a result of the policies of Nixon and Ford, combined with the 1970s energy crisis) and progressive Democrats as a whole at the time. We might have not even had Nixon, since Truman’s progressive policies being implemented and succeeding likely would drag the Democrat party, and Americans in general, more leftwards; which is important considering he was elected due to McGovern being considered “too liberal”.
I’m seeing a lot of “We should have less defense budget and more health care budget” in these comments. But we don’t need more health care budget. The existing budget is more than enough to give us universal health care.
I know what you fuckers are really trying to say.
"We should have less defense budget
and more health care budget"Fuck you, tankies
I’m sorry, do you think it’s a good thing that we funnel huge amounts of money into the bank accounts of the people at the top of huge corporations making devices for destruction? I don’t.
Fuck Vladimir Putin. With a Haliburton-designed dildo. Destruct his rectum.
Not exactly, but it’s actively harmful to the universal healthcare movement on multiple levels to have people believe it would cost the government more money than they are already spending.
The fact that it would cost less is already counterintuitive.
Housing the homeless would also cost less than policing them. But statistics can’t address truthiness.
I get your point, I agree that the US has ample healthcare budget already; the US spends government significantly more budget money (proportionally) on social programs than the EU and most countries with universal and/or free healthcare, but has significantly worse outcomes because capitalism moment. I also agree that the US should value its ability to fight wars. We don’t need to lower our military budget in order to get better healthcare, we need to get rid of liberal capitalism and replace it with heavy regulation or (preferrably but unrealistically) socialism…
That being said, when our military supplies are being used to bomb Palestinian kids, it’s harder to feel justified in giving the military money that could go towards our extremely broken social welfare, which is where others are coming from
Or to not get too in the weeds, specific to healthcare just take an off the shelf single payer program that already works well in any number of countries.
It’s only hard because of conservative opposition. Vote those bastards out, and elect enough progressives to override the conservative Dems.
We probably would have an extremely robust universal and free healthcare plan by now if it weren’t for certain crucial legislatures being filled with conservatives; Truman tried pretty hard to give America universal healthcare, plus civil rights and the best social welfare in the first world in general, but he was stopped in his tracks by a coalition of conservative Democrats and Republicans. Obama also likely would have gotten us universal healthcare if a portion of the Democrats under him were less conservative – he went for the ACA because he knew that would pass, even if it was sub-par.
It’s a shame how Truman couldn’t achieve his goals in office, otherwise I feel we would probably be far better off, and leading the first world in social welfare. Truman was dead-set on bolstering New Deal policies including extremely progressive taxation and better social programs – the same policies which were the foundation of America’s greatest economic success, which is a big part of why recession hit after his conservative Republican second legislator came in and started opposing him. We likely wouldn’t even have had Reagan if it went differently – his election was mostly a reaction to the perceived failures of Carter (which were in reality mostly a result of the policies of Nixon and Ford, combined with the 1970s energy crisis) and progressive Democrats as a whole at the time. We might have not even had Nixon, since Truman’s progressive policies being implemented and succeeding likely would drag the Democrat party, and Americans in general, more leftwards; which is important considering he was elected due to McGovern being considered “too liberal”.
We should rebrand regulation as conservative capitalism. Say that for a decade and it’ll mean what we want it to.
Ukraine is on the same coin, so it’s a matter of how you choose to look at it.
No that money should be going to the healthcare for all the people who’s lives the USA has destroyed