I would be interested to know what they are paying. I live in eastern Ontario and work for a US company. I generally won’t even talk to Canadian companies because they offer less than half what I’m making now. I’ve been ghosted by head hunters working in Canada as soon as I tell them my compensation expectations. I told one that the company wasn’t going to be ably to hire even an entry level sales engineer for what they were offering for a senior position.
If Canadian companies want to recruit actual top talent they need to double what they are offering st an opening negotiating position in terms of compensation.
Yes, but, money isn’t everything. I once left a high paying job in the US to come back to Canada, get paid less, and be way happier.
Working for a US company and living in Canada is a good way to go, but is harder to swing if you are not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident.
Plus it sounds like the people they’re talking about in this scenario may have their H1-B revoked and they wouldn’t have a job or a visa to stay in the US at all. Canada, even with a lower paying job seems like a good option.
My company has a bunch of H1-B engineers who got Trumped out of the US and we moved them to Canada. Now they’re paying Canadian taxes that benefit us all. I was Candian employee no. 3 when I was hired 3 years ago. Now there are close to 40. A little over a year ago they setup a Canadian subsidiary. My contract has always been governed by Canadian and Ontario labour laws. Its a very good arrangement.
I understand where you’re coming from, but we’re taking about having a really high paying job in the US or a high paying job in Canada. The types of jobs getting H1-B visas are high paying tech jobs.
Things are also more expensive than you might think in the US. And there always seems to be a lot of social pressure to spend more money in the US - more so than Canada in my experience. So in a lot of ways, you could be better off in some places even if you have a lower paying job.
Why did Canadian companies make you happier? I’ve worked for both, we definitely have the same work culture as the US, at least in the Ontario tech sector.
Canada in general made me happier. Not necessarily the companies specifically. As much as we can complain about our health care issue here in Canada, the social safety net here is significantly better. And I had “good” insurance coverage in the states. It was a constant fear of getting sick or injured and ending up in the wrong hospital and not getting covered (or any number of other reasons). Add to that the social pressure to spend money on everything in the states. Everyone I knew down there was in debt up to their eyeballs, no matter how much they made. It was ridiculous.
Some say “get paid less and be way happier”, but I think it’s a bit misleading.
When working in Canada, for a company rules by canadian labour laws (health insurance and what not), your actual cost of living is quite proportional to the salary cut.
I’d say “get paid proportional to the cost of living, and be way happier”.
Of course, the best scenario is living in Canada and getting a US salary! 😎
I would be interested to know what they are paying. I live in eastern Ontario and work for a US company. I generally won’t even talk to Canadian companies because they offer less than half what I’m making now. I’ve been ghosted by head hunters working in Canada as soon as I tell them my compensation expectations. I told one that the company wasn’t going to be ably to hire even an entry level sales engineer for what they were offering for a senior position.
If Canadian companies want to recruit actual top talent they need to double what they are offering st an opening negotiating position in terms of compensation.
Yes, but, money isn’t everything. I once left a high paying job in the US to come back to Canada, get paid less, and be way happier.
Working for a US company and living in Canada is a good way to go, but is harder to swing if you are not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident.
Plus it sounds like the people they’re talking about in this scenario may have their H1-B revoked and they wouldn’t have a job or a visa to stay in the US at all. Canada, even with a lower paying job seems like a good option.
My company has a bunch of H1-B engineers who got Trumped out of the US and we moved them to Canada. Now they’re paying Canadian taxes that benefit us all. I was Candian employee no. 3 when I was hired 3 years ago. Now there are close to 40. A little over a year ago they setup a Canadian subsidiary. My contract has always been governed by Canadian and Ontario labour laws. Its a very good arrangement.
Lower pay doesn’t work for everyone if theycan’tt pay their bills
The bills are lower though
I doubt high-skilled tech workers are worried about being able to pay their bills.
I understand where you’re coming from, but we’re taking about having a really high paying job in the US or a high paying job in Canada. The types of jobs getting H1-B visas are high paying tech jobs.
Things are also more expensive than you might think in the US. And there always seems to be a lot of social pressure to spend more money in the US - more so than Canada in my experience. So in a lot of ways, you could be better off in some places even if you have a lower paying job.
Why did Canadian companies make you happier? I’ve worked for both, we definitely have the same work culture as the US, at least in the Ontario tech sector.
Canada in general made me happier. Not necessarily the companies specifically. As much as we can complain about our health care issue here in Canada, the social safety net here is significantly better. And I had “good” insurance coverage in the states. It was a constant fear of getting sick or injured and ending up in the wrong hospital and not getting covered (or any number of other reasons). Add to that the social pressure to spend money on everything in the states. Everyone I knew down there was in debt up to their eyeballs, no matter how much they made. It was ridiculous.
Some say “get paid less and be way happier”, but I think it’s a bit misleading.
When working in Canada, for a company rules by canadian labour laws (health insurance and what not), your actual cost of living is quite proportional to the salary cut.
I’d say “get paid proportional to the cost of living, and be way happier”.
Of course, the best scenario is living in Canada and getting a US salary! 😎
Can confirm.
I don’t know anyone working in US tech that doesn’t have full health benefits.