• Izzy
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    There doesn’t need to be as much road in cities if it is reserved for public transport and emergency vehicles only. Rail and subway are not the only form of public transport, but rail and subways being expensive doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make for a better city. Anything to reduce the noise and reclaim more land for public use such as walking and biking is a huge improvement to peoples well being in cities. As many non-american cities have discovered by doing just that.

    And as this article explains why people are happier in cities it has nothing to do with cars.

    Individual car transport in cities absolutely needs to be given up if there is to be any kind of improvement. Individual cars are the cause of all the congestion, noise, pollution and need for so much road space. You can fit the same amount of people in 1/10th the space using public transport such as in-road rail or busses or anything.

    Autonomous vehicles? Don’t make me laugh. This nonsense is never going to work. Sounds to me like you are drinking the Musk koolaid. The only viable use-case for automation of individual vehicles is going to be large semi-trucks on the interstates where you can actually standardized infrastructure and have as little as possible obstacles. Even then I doubt this will happen any time soon.

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      11 year ago

      There doesn’t need to be as much road in cities if it is reserved for public transport and emergency vehicles only. Rail and subway are not the only form of public transport, but rail and subways being expensive doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make for a better city. Anything to reduce the noise and reclaim more land for public use such as walking and biking is a huge improvement to peoples well being in cities. As many non-american cities have discovered by doing just that.

      And as this article explains why people are happier in cities it has nothing to do with cars.

      But cars are an integral part of modern cities. So people are happier in cities despite of all the cars. This just means that the influence cars have on people is not as big as you claim it to be to people’s well-being. At the same time many people prefer to drive a car than to use public transport. This is simply because public transport is maybe efficient at transporting many people at once on relatively small space, but it cannot rival the efficiency of a car driving from point A to point B without any stops or transfers. It is the more modern way of transport. Despite all the problems that come along. Building future means improving upon something, and not return to the 1920s.

      Individual car transport in cities absolutely needs to be given up if there is to be any kind of improvement.

      As I said before. No it does not.

      Individual cars are the cause of all the congestion, noise, pollution and need for so much road space. You can fit the same amount of people in 1/10th the space using public transport such as in-road rail or busses or anything.

      I already elaborated on the question of efficiency.

      Autonomous vehicles? Don’t make me laugh. This nonsense is never going to work.

      Mercedes is already one step ahead of Tesla now. It is coming. there is no stop to progress. Who would have thought that something like chatGPT would have arrived into our lives so soon. Especially in scientific subjects it makes still a lot of mistakes, I can only speak for chemistry, but seeing it write Letters with rly nice phrasing in a short amount of time is astonishing.

      Sounds to me like you are drinking the Musk koolaid.

      It is easy to say this, but my investments are in German car manufacturers. So I’d rather like to see Musk fail.

      The only viable use-case for automation of individual vehicles is going to be large semi-trucks on the interstates where you can actually standardized infrastructure and have as little as possible obstacles.

      It will most definitely come to private transport as well. Why wouldn’t it? Once software is developed, selling it becomes a matter of advertising.

      Even then I doubt this will happen any time soon. Soon? Not sure, but most definitely in the next 20-30 years.