• LoafyLemon
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      111 months ago

      I have a quiz for you; Name a single successive communist country.

      • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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        011 months ago

        Name a single country that actually implemented communism and wasn’t undermined by the West with coups, sanctions, or outright invasion.

        Oh and the word you’re looking for is “successful”. “Successive” is not in any way a synonym.

        • @Perfide@reddthat.com
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          111 months ago

          China is communist in name only, in practice they are the definition of State Capitalism. I also wouldn’t describe a dictatorship that commits genocide as a success, in any case.

        • LoafyLemon
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          111 months ago

          China is successful from the capitalistic point of view, but it failed to uphold the ideals and principles of the system described in the document. The exploitation of the people is through the roof.

          Edit:

          To further explain my point: Communism is a flawed system that cannot exist in its idealistic form due to the excessive concentration of power in the state, leading to three potential outcomes:

          1. The collapse of the country.
          2. The transformation into a state capitalist system, as seen in China.
          3. The transformation into an authoritarian regime, as seen in North Korea.

          Communism is, in my opinion, a pipe dream because it proposes a classless, stateless society where the means of production are collectively owned and wealth is distributed equally among all members. However, in practice, historical attempts at implementing communism have faced challenges in terms of human nature, central planning inefficiencies, and lack of incentives, leading to economic stagnation, authoritarian rule, and often the collapse of the system.

    • @whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      That legitimately reads like it was written by a teenager who played a bunch of strategy games.

      So much of it is “this is how it will be” in a prescriptive tone as if you can just will things into existence.

      You could describe perfect capitalism in this exact manner, but obviously things don’t work in real life according to your perfect scenario.

      • @hikaru755@feddit.de
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        11 months ago

        I don’t understand your negativity. How else would you write a proposal for a completely new system to be talked about, if not in an idealistic and prescriptive manner? That’s the first step to then start a discussion about it and find and fix the aspects that people expect to not work in practice.