One street over from the new Sunderland RV Safe Park, dozens of homeless people live in broken-down vehicles, many of which don’t qualify for the park.
“I call it jail. That’s basically what it is,” said Andrew, who’s lived in an RV on Northeast 33rd Drive for six years."
Also FTA:
“Homeless people also need to have some form of proof of the right to use the vehicle and a valid driver’s license to drive it.”
Because having a running vehicle and proof you can drive it is like jail?
This is why a housing first model doesn’t work. You want free housing? Yes, it’s going to come with restrictions. No booze, no drugs, no crime. Don’t want the restrictions? Get a job, get money, pay for it like everyone else.
@jordanlund@const_void job is ideal, yet there are barriers for those living in their vehicles to get one. some people are only lucky enough to have a car and not an RV, how will they keep up hygiene for an interview? how can people access addiction services when they often require good insurance or a lot of money? if they don’t have a permanent residence are they able to renew driver’s licenses? is it these barriers that make Andrew compare his situation to imprisonment?
@jordanlund “‘It’s a controlled environment,’ [Ralph] said. ‘They control you. They got to let everybody get in there, you can’t put a label on people.’ ‘No one wants to go in there because of the rules,’ Angel said. ‘No one wants to be told what to do like that.’ The Salvation Army runs the site. Their spokesperson said they weren’t sure if they had a list of site rules yet. KGW is planning to meet with them next week to find some clarity.”
FTA:
“I call it jail. That’s basically what it is,” said Andrew, who’s lived in an RV on Northeast 33rd Drive for six years."
Also FTA:
“Homeless people also need to have some form of proof of the right to use the vehicle and a valid driver’s license to drive it.”
Because having a running vehicle and proof you can drive it is like jail?
This is why a housing first model doesn’t work. You want free housing? Yes, it’s going to come with restrictions. No booze, no drugs, no crime. Don’t want the restrictions? Get a job, get money, pay for it like everyone else.
@jordanlund @const_void
Housing first does work if your goal is to get people off the street cheaply and effectively, and keep them housed.
If you’re neurotic about substance mis-use in other people sure, housing first won’t stop it, but at least you won’t have a bunch of camps everywhere.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7427255/
@jordanlund @const_void job is ideal, yet there are barriers for those living in their vehicles to get one. some people are only lucky enough to have a car and not an RV, how will they keep up hygiene for an interview? how can people access addiction services when they often require good insurance or a lot of money? if they don’t have a permanent residence are they able to renew driver’s licenses? is it these barriers that make Andrew compare his situation to imprisonment?
He isn’t saying his situation is imprisonment, he’s saying living in the RV camp with restrictions is imprisomment.
@jordanlund “‘It’s a controlled environment,’ [Ralph] said. ‘They control you. They got to let everybody get in there, you can’t put a label on people.’ ‘No one wants to go in there because of the rules,’ Angel said. ‘No one wants to be told what to do like that.’ The Salvation Army runs the site. Their spokesperson said they weren’t sure if they had a list of site rules yet. KGW is planning to meet with them next week to find some clarity.”
seeing it’s Sal Army it’s good to follow up
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