Zoom’s updated policy states that all rights to Service Generated Data are retained solely by Zoom. This extends to Zoom’s rights to modify, distribute, process, share, maintain, and store such data “for any purpose, to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable law.”, including AI and Machine Learning.

  • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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    15311 months ago

    The real trouble here is got vague the term “user generated content” is.

    Does that include recordings of meetings? Does that include files or messages over chat during calls? Does it include names of those attending calls?

    With it being so vague, you have to assume the worst possible case, which sucks for anyone who uses Zoom.

    • @Jarmer@slrpnk.net
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      yeah I think it means … ALL OF IT.

      also double sucks because a lot of people have no choice but to use zoom. jobs require it.

      • @chilicheeselies@lemmy.world
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        They wont for long if their legal departments see that. We already arent allowed to record meetings with zoom where i work, and are going to teams.

        Its the people who lose in this one

      • @gelberhut@lemdro.id
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        If you have to use it for work, it is not your issue, but your employer’s.

        Still, I will be surprised if zoom will apply this rule to corporate customers.

        • NerfHerder
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          Yeah, but if you’re interviewing for a job, it IS your problem, no?

          • @gelberhut@lemdro.id
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            Good point: n this case it is 50/50, I would say. Interview is unlikely, your private discussion. Not sure to what degree interview discussion “belongs” to the interviewing company.

            Moreover, if you think that company uses wrong tools, you can simply reject interview.

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                I think zoom do not want to own everything, it simply wants to be able to use this data to improve their services and stay relevant. Ms teams had a lot of ml bases features already.

                But how is this related to the contents of my comment?

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      They can’t be that stupid. Many companies that use zoom do it to discuss with clients, in conversations that are expected to be private and confidential. Training an ai might mean leaking some of this content, unless it’s an AI used exclusive internally at zoom. They better not use recording of meetings, unless they are ready to pay lawyers for years

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      811 months ago

      Unrelated, you’re my favourite game ever and I love you and miss you and I’d pay so much for a pre-re server without a cash shop at maybe 2-5k total players.

      • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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        311 months ago

        I love you too and each winter I make a habit of hopping on a p-server and enveloping myself in nostalgia. I’m still waiting for an RO Lemmy community.

        Let me know if you ever start playing again and I’ll be your buddy.

          • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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            311 months ago

            I did! I played it for 3-4 years around the mid-to-early 2000s.

            So many great memories of LoE and going on MVP hunts with my monk. Not to mention the super fun holiday events. I still haven’t had a game hit the same spot as Ragnarok during Christmas 2004.

              • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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                311 months ago

                I WAS ON CHAOS TOOOOO! Were you in any particular alliance (or guild or clan or whatever they called it)? I was only in a small one called “Phenix Rising”. But it didn’t last super long.

                • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  311 months ago

                  I was a guileless roamer Wizard on Chaos, because it felt soooo big! I didn’t get deep in guilds and community until moving over to little Sakray.

                  Sakray was my high school life. I made friends I still love today. It honestly probably saved my life. I wouldn’t be where I am, wouldn’t be married to the person I’m with, and might not even be alive if not for Ragnarok and the connections I made there.

                  I’m getting an RO tattoo shortly. I haven’t decided exactly what, yet. I don’t want a pantless fox girl on my flesh or I’d get Moonlight, easily. Possibly Eddga? Maybe Bapho, I love the way it is stylized. Maybe a Sting, because I spent more time SD’ing Stings than probably any other grinding spot in the game… aside from Elder Willows, I suppose.

                  Maybe just a tiny image of a card on the floor.

                  • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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                    I loved hearing your story and getting to relive a bit of nostalgia with you, friend.

                    If it wasn’t for RO, I probably wouldn’t be in the job I am now (I actually bonded with a really really great coworker over RO memories) and I wouldn’t be as good of friends with my best friend without all of our late night Glast Heim grinding sessions.

                    I still listen to playlists of the background music to this day.

                    An RO tat sounds like a great tribute. If it were me, I think my tattoo would be Stormy, because that bastard killed me so much when I was leveling my monk in Toy Factory 2 .