After the network showed a clip of a young conservative activist saying that climate change was the number one issue for young voters, Fox News moderator Martha MacCallum asked for a show of hands in response to her question, “Do you believe human behavior is causing climate change?”
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis refused to participate, and then GOP presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy declared, “I’m the only person on the stage who isn’t bought and paid for, so I can say this: The climate change agenda is a hoax.” A crowd full of Republicans started to boo.
Most of the Republicans on stage fell short of completely denying that climate change is caused by human activity. Ramaswamy, perhaps taking a page out of the Trump playbook of making the most outlandish comment possible, came right out and said it.
Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie shot back, “I’ve had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT.” Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley went so far as to venture, “Climate change is real.”
But moderator Bret Baier seized not on Ramaswamy’s blatant denial of the scientific consensus on climate change, but on his claim that he was the only candidate on the stage who was “not bought and paid for.” Baier took turns asking candidates, “Are you bought and paid for?” In classic Fox News fashion, a moment that could have provided insight into how far Republicans are willing to go to please young voters concerned about the environment devolved into senseless crosstalk. Still, for a party that has spent years ignoring or denying the biggest threat to our planet’s future, tonight’s responses were actually, almost, a little bit refreshing.
Outright climate denial, avoidance of actually engaging the question, and zero mention of any policy Republicans might advance on climate.
Sounds about Right.
It’s even funnier when considering they could suggest climate denying policies and still don’t.
They have no platform. Literally. Not even a regressive one.
Them having a platform is irrelevant. Trump is going to be the nominee, almost certainly even if he’s actually found guilty and ends up in prison (which I doubt will ever happen). This is all just a marketing exercise for the other candidates.
Also if they’re getting booed for denying climate change(?), then they’re better off just being silent on the campaign trail while continuing to support the oil sector once in office. Hell, they could even pivot to what the dems do by campaigning on it and doing nothing if their base starts to make it an issue.
I’m talking about the republicans overall. In the general they better have a platform but it seems this is going to be a repeat of 2020.
I mean yeah. All they need to do is say “woke” a bunch of times and they’ll be within spitting distance of the presidency.
Woke is this decades “a noun a verb and 9/11”
Not until Biden starts saying it (not that I’d rule this out lol, the man’s a segregationist).
That wouldn’t be a problem if so many far left people weren’t so insufferably woke. You can pretend it’s something made up by the right - but I’ve voted Labour all my life and I’m sick to death of wokeness.
I wonder why so many trans people become communists when even the supporters of the left wing liberal parties openly oppose their existence 🤔
“oppose their existence”
Bullshit.
People who supper trans people 100% but yet think that self-id and trans people being in Ellen’s sports is problematic are being called “terfs” and “transphobes”
It’s just insanity.
People like you with absolutely no sense of perspective are doing more harm to trans people than anyone else.
Fuck off with that ableist “people that disagree with me are mentally ill and mental illness is for bad people” shit.
Is this a bit?
[surreptitiously speaking into walkie-talkie]: “labour voter spotted. send in the wokes”
Get that divisive nazbol shit out of here, bootlicker.
Ahh yes, calling people nazis and boot lickers isn’t divisive.
You people are the new Christian Right from the 90s.
Fuck you. It’s stupid to not divide away from nazis and nazi enablers. Sit down with ten nazis, you just made a table of eleven nazis.
And you’re the same kind of useless liberal that let Hitler take the chancellorship and thought it was a smart compromise.
Could you define “wokeness”?
You know sometimes when you meet a Christian person, and you only find it out later? But they were really respectful, down to earth, helpful and generally seems like a good person and member of their community? The kind off person that volunteers to drop of a second hand sofa in their station wagon?
And you know how sometimes you get Christians that are constantly trying to use their religion to imply moral superiority? Forcing other people to do what they want? Having shameful public displays? Trying to erode the rights of women and gays? Screeching Karens who seem totally disconnected from anything even slightly spiritual?
Woke people for me are more like the social justice equivalent of the second care category.
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“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.” - Grover Norquist
That’s always been their platform. They just don’t say the quiet part out loud very often.
Republicans tell their base that they want to cut government, but always act otherwise. Controlling government purse strings is political power and economic power. There may be shell games played that transfers spending, but Republicans do not cut government, nor their power.
They cut government, so that corporations can wield more control. Eliminate public schools over private. Deregulate so that corporations can pollute or scam as much as they want. Or just slash government to “prove” that government is worthless, so that they can slash government even more.
They don’t need government. They just need government to disappear. They believe in corporatocracy.
They have endless amounts of bigotry, and that is all that matters to their voters. They know they don’t need a platform and Trump made them realise that they don’t even need to pretend to have a platform anymore.
The Republicans don’t offer any solution for anything. It’s nothing but denialism and pandering. How could anyone have heard these idiots speak and think they have anything to offer us as President?
The democrats are only marginally better in that they propose solutions. But they never follow through with them.
I dislike dems as much as any neoliberal party, but their complete inaction is largely caused by GOP obstruction.
Thats just a convenient excuse they use to not do anything and keep their lobbiests happy.
Democrats will admit that climate change is real but either do nothing to stop it or keep making things worse (with Biden signing more oil drilling permits than Trump because he is a puppet of the bourgeoisie, like every elected official in the country).
They seem to have a bone to pick with China and any renewables manufactured there.
-This message was unironically posted from a Chinese made iPhone.
Well yeah you’d prefer to manufacture it in the US. Biden did that with the IRA. But that won’t stop Republicans from shouting C-c-China.
TIL I have a nemesis on the Lemmyverse. Cross-eyed glance at someguy3.
You’ve got one on kbin too - @some_guy - a racist, bigoted fascist who likes to obsessively troll people and try to dox them.
It took me a moment to determine whether or not you were the same person, but unlike him, you can speak in complete sentences. As such, I thought I’d give you and @someguy3 a heads up that your good names are being dragged through the mud.
That sucks. Thanks for the heads-up. I’m getting the impression that kbin might be a haven for shitheads. Is this accurate? (Asking the room in general.)
Actually Kbin is great for tracking shitheads, which is why I’m able to call this guy out. Downvotes are visible on the activity tab of each post and comment, and this troll loves downvote spam - as you can see, he downvoted my comment above. He’s the kind that will stalk your account and downvote everything to try and get your attention.
In general, 99.9% of the community here is awesome, and there’s a lot of support between users here. It’s actually the best experience I’ve had online in many years (and I’ve been online since the early 90s). One of my goals in calling out the trolls when they decide to target me is to keep the community enjoyable, as I’m quite certain I’m not their only intended victim.
Just waiting for the 2nd amigo to show up so you guys can commence with the Mexican-Spider-Man-point-off.
Was there any legitimate policy discussed at all? Besides platitudes and dog whistles?