You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.

They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.

I share a lot of my experience here.

https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel

My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?

      • @MrHand@lemmy.worldOP
        2•1 year ago

        Considering the resources the government has, they can induce insomnia on an individual in order to get them labeled as schizo, and as I was (am) under intrusive monitoring that might’ve been just the intention so I end up hospitalized and deprived of 2nd amendment rights. Assholes. Indeed, from the FBI’s “Making Prevention a Reality” report, they pretty much say they desire an individual get involuntarily committed solely to deprive them of 2nd amendment rights. That’s very close to saying they’ll undertake action to have that outcome.

        • Montagge
          13•1 year ago

          That would be an incredibly bad idea as most people with insomnia do not have schizophrenia

            • roguetrick
              9•1 year ago

              To be clear, you cannot be held without a judge’s order even if you go in voluntarily. They will not keep you for long and based on your symptoms may not even admit you but instead give you resources to use after visiting the ER. I think you’re in a good position to head in before a real crisis that will get you involuntarily committed.

              • @MrHand@lemmy.worldOP
                2•1 year ago

                For sure, but you can drive someone to insanity by depriving them of sleep. I say I am subject to intrusive monitoring. I realize that if I try to express this to normal everyday people, I will come off as schizo. On top of that to be going around sleepless – a mental zombie – is going to make me look crazier, and make everyone around me think I’m a loon. Maybe this leaves a “trail” of mental-health issue history that, should I snap in public or something, can be used to commit me.

                • roguetrick
                  8•1 year ago

                  You will be told that you are having paranoid delusions by healthcare professionals. I am a healthcare professional and am telling you that. We don’t expect you to believe us. But what I’m also telling you is that not matter what, you know that you are heading to a crisis without any sleep. Not believing me about that, or other professionals about that, doesn’t change the fact that you need help with what you’re experiencing. As far as a record goes, a judge decides if you are an ACTIVE threat. Past doesn’t matter for that, unless you have a past history of being violent. Being delusional is NOT an active threat.

                  • @MrHand@lemmy.worldOP
                    2•1 year ago

                    I’m not having paranoid delusions. This was my experience: I posted on the web forum incels.is – run by DHS – and have since been subject to intrusive monitoring which escalated into direct fed harassment of me in various ways. Part of this “intrusive monitoring” entails monitoring of my communications and online activity. Hence it’s not out of the realm of possibility that some of the people here eager to label my claims as paranoid/delusional are feds…

            • Montagge
              7•1 year ago

              But that’s more work than they need to do to discredit or lock someone up. It makes no sense for them to do that to you. It’s much more likely you have a health condition.

                • Montagge
                  8•1 year ago

                  Please at least consider getting mental health just in case you’re wrong

                  • @MrHand@lemmy.worldOP
                    2•1 year ago

                    Bro they broke into my apartment and replaced my prozac with super-depression inducing crap. I took a few of the pills and fell into super depression. Then they started teasing me on reddit “does he notice? does he notice?” etc etc. The pills were colored differently. Not sure what their purpose was. Plus if I see a therapist they’ll be privy to what I say (under the 9/11 bill they can pull your records.)