A patent filed by Nintendo suggests that they’re working on Hall Effect style joysticks for the Switch 2 that would eliminate stick drift almost entirely.

  • Paradox
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    12110 months ago

    Joycon drift, and all other thumbstick drift, is already a solved problem.

    1. Use bushings that actually have some abrasive resistance and aren’t softer than a fingernail.
    2. Use a non-contact based sensor to determine the XY position of the stick. Hall effect, optical, strain gauge, whatever, we’ve had the tech for 50 years.

    The reason why they haven’t done this is one very simple reason: $$$

      • @CanofBeanz@lemmy.world
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        4910 months ago

        N64 does use optical sensors, the n64 stick is actually super precise and doesn’t suffer from drift. The n64 is a goofy controller but it is simply a great and accurate input device, and a lot of the games were really designed with that stick and notches in mind.

        But it is made of all plastic and features plastic on plastic moving parts, without lubrication, so it suffers from wear of the plastic. Worn n64 sticks will actually be filled with plastic dust from the stick and gears literally sanding themselves down. The only problem with the controller is the premature wear of the stick.

        • JokeDeity
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          510 months ago

          It’s crazy to me that no company ever made a decent 3rd party N64 controller. The 3rd party ones were all as ridiculous as the defaults. Great console that I loved, but would have gotten a lot more out of with better controllers.

            • JokeDeity
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              10 months ago

              The Hori Pad Mini? I had never seen that before, leagues above anything I remember being available at the time. The other looks amazing, definitely a modern controller that I would have killed for back then.

      • Altima NEO
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        1910 months ago

        The sensors on the N64 are basically the same kind you’d find in a mouse wheel. They work fine.

        The crap part is the physical construction. There’s a lot of parts that wear down with use and cause the joystick to become loose due to the plastics wearing away.

      • Paradox
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        1410 months ago

        N64’s issues came from the bushings wearing out, the sensors were still very good

          • Paradox
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            210 months ago

            Yup. If they’d just made the bowl out of something OTHER than ABS, they would have been good. Delrin, PTFE, even a thin layer of brass or broze, and those controllers wouldn’t have had anywhere near the amount of issues they’re known for having.

            There are third-party manufacturers who sell replacement bowls and sticks, made from everything from POM to steel.