There is a strong rumour going round that some Fediverse developers and admins have held secret discussions with Meta/Facebook under NDAs.
The Fediverse is supposed to be an alliance of open projects built by a broad grassroots base. Its devs/admins are not supposed to hold secret backroom discussions with people who have a horrific track record (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence).
Facebook/Meta is in effect a sociopathic corporation (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-facebook-executive-defended-data). Nothing good will come of talking to them.
it’s an extraordinary claim, but i don’t disbelieve it. has anyone else heard anything about this?
Seems feasible considering every attempt to discuss using more Fediverse just gets ignored. Like Peertube is sitting right there, but everyone that joined Mastodon instances is sharing YouTube links.
But people are like this in general, so it might be just predictable behaviour.
Friendi.ca is a Facebook alternative, but I don’t want to leave anonymity again.
People are still using YouTube because it still works for them. Once Google ships something that changes that, folks will start looking for alternatives. Same goes for Owncast and Twitch.
I feel like the problem with moving away from youtube is that the larger chanels making money off of it arent going to want to move because they wont get monitized if they do. If they do move it will probably be to another corperate platform.
I really dont like what youtube is planning on doing by restricting adblockers and adding more unskippable ads though. Hopefully that moves at least some people to peertube.
They could but there is still a loss of income if they do switch so they would be more inclined not to switch especialy if the channel is only just big enough for the creator to make a living from it
not saying it’s impossible though if youtube really fucks things up.
Like Peertube is sitting right there, but everyone that joined Mastodon instances is sharing YouTube links.
Yeah, but often the stuff you want to share isn’t on PeerTube. I think that’s more the issue than people not wanting to use it/share from it.
I don’t even use YT directly, always trough a privacy front-end. When I share however, I share the link to YT instead of to the front-end. There are multiple privacy front-ends, and for most devices there are ways to redirect those. By linking the original link, they can redirect to whichever they preffer.
A lot of stuff I follow is on Mastodon nowadays, and Lemmy isn’t as much about following specific people but topics and conversations. But a lot of channels I like are not on PeerTube. Only if they switch, or a lot of new equally interesting ones take their place, will linking PeerTube become the norm. But whenever I check PeerTube now, it’s just not that interesting.
Seems feasible considering every attempt to discuss using more Fediverse just gets ignored. Like Peertube is sitting right there, but everyone that joined Mastodon instances is sharing YouTube links.
But people are like this in general, so it might be just predictable behaviour.
Friendi.ca is a Facebook alternative, but I don’t want to leave anonymity again.
Pixelfed is a good Instagram alternative.
every platform will shit the bed eventually. i’m just grateful we have these alternatives for when they do
People are still using YouTube because it still works for them. Once Google ships something that changes that, folks will start looking for alternatives. Same goes for Owncast and Twitch.
I feel like the problem with moving away from youtube is that the larger chanels making money off of it arent going to want to move because they wont get monitized if they do. If they do move it will probably be to another corperate platform.
I really dont like what youtube is planning on doing by restricting adblockers and adding more unskippable ads though. Hopefully that moves at least some people to peertube.
I think any channel that’s able to get away with crowdfunded monetization like Ko-Fi or Patreon would be able to make the switch comfortably.
They could but there is still a loss of income if they do switch so they would be more inclined not to switch especialy if the channel is only just big enough for the creator to make a living from it
not saying it’s impossible though if youtube really fucks things up.
Content creators aren’t going to follow those users to another site just so they can continue to block ads.
Exactly
Yeah, but often the stuff you want to share isn’t on PeerTube. I think that’s more the issue than people not wanting to use it/share from it.
I don’t even use YT directly, always trough a privacy front-end. When I share however, I share the link to YT instead of to the front-end. There are multiple privacy front-ends, and for most devices there are ways to redirect those. By linking the original link, they can redirect to whichever they preffer.
A lot of stuff I follow is on Mastodon nowadays, and Lemmy isn’t as much about following specific people but topics and conversations. But a lot of channels I like are not on PeerTube. Only if they switch, or a lot of new equally interesting ones take their place, will linking PeerTube become the norm. But whenever I check PeerTube now, it’s just not that interesting.