• @Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    910 months ago

    In theory yes, and you are going to say all communist countries were not “real communism” now ? The USSR was known for its ruthless and violent political scenes. Leaders condemning their opponents’ families to discredit them for example. North Korea gives all power to the supreme leader (a communist monarchy lmfao). Communist China is the closest to what you might you believe in but it’s insanely violent in the backstage. The closer you are to higher seats of power, the more in danger you are.

    On top of that any individual at the top can effectively enact their preferred policies over everyone. Millions died simply because the supreme leader ordered so.

    • @onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      710 months ago

      Communist China is the closest to what you might you believe in

      Either you didn’t read what I said or you know nothing about communism. Also like what is with people not understanding that no country has ever claimed to have achieved communism? It’s just an objective fact China or the Soviet Union for example never claimed they achieved communism.

      • @BigNote@lemm.ee
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        110 months ago

        No country has ever achieved it for the rather obvious reason that it’s impossible. It’s a nice idea, but it’s a pipe dream.

        • @onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          110 months ago

          No country has ever claimed to achieve it but there are societies both past and present that have created similar societes. Like chiapas in Mexico and Rojava today.

          • @BigNote@lemm.ee
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            110 months ago

            You have to be embarrassingly ignorant of the reality on the ground in Chiapas to imagine for a second that this is true.

            Unfortunately for your argument, I happen to know a thing or two about Chiapas, lived and worked there for upwards of a year in the mid 90s, and have no idea WTF you’re talking about.

            Do tell?

            If you’re on the Subcommandante Marcos bandwagon, I cordially enjoin you to go fuck yourself.

            Marcos was no more than an opportunistic interloper who tried to jump into a much older indegenio fight as a self-aggrandizing and self-appointed power grab.

            At no point in time was it ever the case that he was accurately representing the Lacandon as an honest and disinterested party.

            • @onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              110 months ago

              Maybe take a couple of deep breaths and calm down before you post on the internet? It’s an example of self-governed autonomous and democratic communities. If you disagree with that maybe you can explain why it’s wrong instead of throwing a fit. Also, maybe you should read up more on what you’re talking about because you didn’t even use the correct name nor seem to know the meaning of the word Subcommandante.

      • CMD
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        510 months ago

        @TheAnonymouseJoker @Alpharius >Communist states are not going around establishing hundreds of military bases, carpet bombing and genociding countries and creating a media-military propaganda machine for their citizens to fear boogeymen for the horrors their own politicians and corporations are committing against them.

        China does a solid chunk of that - they broker deals to use other country’s ports as naval bases, they have an ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs and Falun Gong, they were responsible for the mass spread of COVID in late 2019/early 2020, and their propaganda machine is strongly tied to their military.

        It is disingenuous to pretend communist states do not do things that the largest communist state in the world does.