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  • @CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
    7•1 year ago

    I’ll take a go at it. I am a woman. Don’t automatically assume whoever you are responding to is male. Also, if we are specifically talking about women, then let’s not forget that cis women, specifically, exist and don’t have to do all the heavy lifting for every other non-cishet-male. Sometimes on R****t I felt that cis women were stifled in that regard. I will be very, very curious to see how this comment gets voted on and engaged with…

    • @moog@lemm.eeEnglish
      9•1 year ago

      what do you mean cis women exist and dont have to do heavy lifting for other non cishet male and how does that apply to making Lemmy a safer and more inclusive place for women?

      • @CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
        5•1 year ago

        Regarding erasure, in an effort to make language more inclusive, women’s identity is often erased. “Pregnant people” removes women (the vast majority of people who are pregnant are cis women). Other language like that. So use language that actually does acknowledge women and doesn’t contribute to their erasure. “Pregnant women and people” perhaps, for example. When all you are usually dealing with is text on a screen, language matters.

        Re: the other point, it’s less Lemmy-specific. Cis men need to step up and do the work for inclusion as well. It seems there is a default expectation that of course women should be leading the charge since they’re already a “minority” group. It’s tiring.

          • @mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4•1 year ago

            Not sure exactly where you are coming from with that. The main post was about women specifically, is pretty normal to see responses that are “non-trans pregnant woman” specific considering that (as far as I’m aware) we don’t have the technology to impregnate trans women yet.

            And since the main post is about women, we can also assume we aren’t talking about pregnant trans men.

            I know it’s fun to point your finger and “Gotcha!” But you are going to have to give us some pretty specific examples why if you want us to believe she’s a terf.

        • FranziaEnglish
          2•1 year ago

          Did you get this talking point from Ana Kasparian? She recently made arguments like this, but they were a lot less reasonable. “Pregnant women and people” sounds like an easy compromise to me.