• @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    11 year ago

    You bike anywhere that doesn’t have these movement-infringing obstructionists. You don’t bike anywhere that does have such criminals.

    “Jail” seemed the most appropriate option. “Hood ornament” and “speed bump” are perfectly reasonable alternatives, but you indicated their willingness for “jail”. “Jail” would make everyone happy.

    • Actually yes, you do, and I know because I’ve been on both sides of this equation. The only thing you can do is be patient and wait for them to pass or politely cheer them on and walk/push your bike around them. They are not seriously going to stop pedestrians.

      The fact that they’re willing to endure jail over this is morally laudable. Jail is awful for those who can’t afford to bail themselves out. It shouldn’t be a place protesters are thrown into for exercising their first amendment rights but that’s how tyranny works.

      You need to stop being selfish and grow the fuck up.

      • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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        11 year ago

        You keep using those words, but you clearly don’t comprehend their meaning.

        “Selfish” is demanding exclusive access to public thoroughfares. “Selfish” is insisting that you are the only person who can use a public road. “Selfish” is denying public access to public roads.

        “Tyranny” is when an individual forces the public to bend to their personal whims, instead of allowing them to conduct their own affairs in peace.

        These people are not protesting. They are infringing on the rights of every person they deliberately delay.

        Protesters have the right to speak. They do not have the right to demand a captive audience to hear their speech. They do not have the right to stop anyone who wants to move. They do not have the right to harass. You can speak; you cannot force anyone to listen, and you should be jailed for trying.

        • No, no, you’re being selfish. You can’t be assed to sit in traffic for 10 minutes or simply turn around to accommodate for other people’s right to protest. That silly thing people fought and died to have. All because you don’t want to tolerate being inconvenienced. That is the height of selfishness.

          You are selfish. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

          Drivig isn’t even a right, it’s a privilege. Legally it’s a privilege. You have no right to drive and never did. They do, however, have a right to protest.

          Stop only caring about yourself and invest your mental energy in something other than your shitty 9 to 5.

          • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            No, no, you’re being selfish. You can’t be assed to sit in traffic

            No, no, no: that isn’t traffic. I’m not stuck in traffic. “Traffic” is people trying to get from where they are to where they want to be. I have no problem sitting in traffic.

            The problem is that they aren’t traveling. They aren’t creating “traffic”. They are detaining people. They are unlawfully stripping people of their right to travel, without their consent. Unlawful detention is a crime.

            I’m not caring only for myself. I am caring about all the other people who are similarly being unlawfully detained by these selfish, tyrannical, criminals who have unilaterally stripped us of our right to travel in peace.

            You can Share the road, get the fuck off the road, go to jail, or get run over. I don’t particularly care which one you pick, but “detain others” is not an option.

            • Yeah, you’re the one with the ability and the will to run them over and kill them and yet somehow, you’re the victim being detained. 🙄

              Grow the fuck up. You are not a victim. It is not all about you. You are not entitled to 100% guaranteed access to empty roads.

              You have to share the road with pedestrians and even protesters whether you like it or not. Protesters are a part of driving and a part of life you have to accept.

              Do what you tell everyone else to do: Get over it.

              • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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                11 year ago

                You have to share the road with pedestrians and even protesters whether you like it or not. Protesters are a part of driving and a part of life you have to accept.

                Obstructing the road is not sharing the road.

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                I have to share with travelers. I have no problem sharing with other people traveling on the road, even when the act of traveling introduces delays.

                Protesters also have to share the road. They are not allowed to obstruct the road in the course of their protest. Obstructing the road is a criminal act specifically because the roads must be shared and “obstruction” is not sharing.

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                  See, I can be obnoxious to prove a point too.

                  It doesn’t matter if protesters are hanging out in the middle of the road. You have to put up with them regardless. And honestly, the situation is too serious for your inconvenience to be taken into account. Fix the planet, then we’ll talk.

                  • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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                    11 year ago

                    Pedestrians do, indeed, have the right of way. “Right of way” meaning they are traveling.

                    To have the right of way, you have to be traveling. If you are not traveling, you can have no right of way. If you are not traveling on a thoroughfare, you are obstructing traffic for those who are traveling.

                    Protesters obstructing traffic do not have the right of way. They are criminals, and it is a good thing that they like jail.