Ok monkey, you’re talking about a system of governance that everyone would be a part of in the richest country on Earth. That country being filled with people who have all been taught that “fuck you I got mine” is the law of the world.
Magically, somehow, in every one of every Communist garbage essays I’ve seen on this site; you people fail to recognize the key factor that will absolutely cause communism to fail. People. “No no, control will go to the right people, you’ll see!”
Yesss! That works fine if your lefties are balanced with righties in a multinparty system in a modern healthy economy in a wester country. (e.g. EUROPE). it Shamefully does not work in ECUADOR, VENEZUELA ARGENTINA COLOMBIA PERÚ BRASIL And That’s Just the ones I know of.
Let disregard us of a(holes). They don’t have politics, just LOBBYists
Using “tankie” to mean anything left of center, truly the mark of a complete moron. By the way, rightwingers aren’t people and don’t deserve to enjoy the benefits of being people.
A complete moron would start to make accusations from assumptions instead of asking to clarify. I don’t mean “anything left of center”. I’m very left of center. But I do mean the militant and belligerent tankies of the Fediverse of which I see many. I wonder, did the shoe fit or is it an anger management issue?
Yup ignoring your actual argument about why Capitalism is better at regulating greed. Because they know it isn’t, they have to ignore that, and rely on whataboutisms, while ignoring the fact that Capitalism doesn’t even work on paper. Classic.
A small tiny example can be this: a communist government buys from China, shitty works, no guarantee, high interests, no local staff hired.
A capitalist government buys (loans) from us and actually has an insurance and guarantee and warranty that their hidroeléctric dam will be finished and 100% of promised capacity.
One is basically STEALING (with help of local president, in south am or Africa or Asia).
The other may make rich people Richer.
BUT AT LEAST THE PROJECT IS DONE.
AND THE US IS NOT ASKING FOR 11% INTERÉS NOR FOR 3$ DISCOUNT ON EACH BARREL OF CRUDE. NOR TO SIGN AWAY THE GALÁPAGOS ISLANDS IF DEFAULT ON DEBT. (this is Ecuador, I can do Venezuela or argentina or african countries too, just let me know which you want a passionate lecture on.
If you’d really like to know, there is a Wikipedia page that has a huge list of dictators killing their OWN population. Even the Austrian painter called his party (Nazionale) socialist…
But if you don’t count him, he would be one of the ONLY ones that has killed over a milion of their OWN people that was NOT a supposed communist.
COMMUNISM IS A FANTASTIC IDEA!
(but not more than that, unfortunately)
I WILL VOTE COMMUNIST WHEN THEIR LEADER IS me. Or an Ai.
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I’m talking about 11% interest payments to China for projects that aren’t EVER finished…
To give 100million to Cuba for generators that are NEVER delivered.
That’s just a small taste of how a former president (Correa) can make 30 years of misery by signing away the country. Argentina even worse it’s now OWNED by China.
Of course not, my friend. The problem only arises when you make a BAD contract for 11% interest, discount on crude sales, overpriced project with 100% Chinese engineers and no warranty (just so Mr president can recieve some usd in cayman or Vatican # account…)
They may have visited for a month and talked to 40% of the people there tho, who are so uneducated they are indoctrinated by church and (state) political parties
No, it’s the lack of respect for common sense and the extreme greed of its leaders. Historically 99.99% of comunist leaders live lavish lifestyles, kids in private schools and holidays in miami
COMUNISM is based on the fact that people are nice and honest and won’t abuse power.
Shamefully, this has no correlation with real life.
ANY AND ALL COMMUNIST LEADERS ARE DICTATORS
Okay, you made your point.
Now let’s talk about democratic socialism.
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“No no, it’ll be better this time. I promise.”
That is what “argument is purely against existing historical applications” immediately puts into my head.
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“Am I admitting that I don’t”
Ok monkey, you’re talking about a system of governance that everyone would be a part of in the richest country on Earth. That country being filled with people who have all been taught that “fuck you I got mine” is the law of the world.
Magically, somehow, in every one of every Communist garbage essays I’ve seen on this site; you people fail to recognize the key factor that will absolutely cause communism to fail. People. “No no, control will go to the right people, you’ll see!”
Sick brigading, now shut the fuck up.
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Por que no los dos
Yesss! That works fine if your lefties are balanced with righties in a multinparty system in a modern healthy economy in a wester country. (e.g. EUROPE). it Shamefully does not work in ECUADOR, VENEZUELA ARGENTINA COLOMBIA PERÚ BRASIL And That’s Just the ones I know of.
Let disregard us of a(holes). They don’t have politics, just LOBBYists
Careful now, these are tankie-infested waters we sail teehee
Using “tankie” to mean anything left of center, truly the mark of a complete moron. By the way, rightwingers aren’t people and don’t deserve to enjoy the benefits of being people.
Where did he use tankie to describe anyone left of center? You did that. And then you dehumanized fellow human beings. Great job, asshole!
For me to be dehumanizing them, rightwingers would have to be human to begin with. Which they’re not, as proved by them being rightwing.
Like it or not, rightwingers are just as human as you or me. No other creature on earth can hate like a human can. That’s a wholly human trait.
Also, you’re trending dangerously close to fascist rhetoric by dehumanizing your fellow man.
Not really. There’s a very simple cure to not being rightwing: thinking for a single second and not acting like scum.
You seem to misunderstand the human psyche.
Or visit south America for a decade to find out comunism isn’t that great either. EVERY SINGLE FAMILY IS AFFECTED WHEN INFLATION IS 200%
I live in South America, you moron.
Even IF they were animals, that just makes them even more worthy of respect by leeches like u
Delete your account. Thanks.
Lmao
I get that your tiny little mushroom of a brain thinks that’s some kind of gotcha on hypocrisy, but it really isn’t… I’m openly communist.
I just thought it was funny
I’m glad you had a laugh, at least.
Yw
So basically you don’t get banned on lemmy for calling people subhuman? Like the Austrian painter… On flikflok it gets you banned.
Ps do you actually thing You Are Better. OR JUST THAT OTHERS ARE WORSE?
Please, use your two braincells to the utmost of their ability and try to create a coherent sentence.
Dude if you have trouble comprehending, just let me know what part and I’ll explain in detail.
Downvote brigades arnt very nice, but they also are pretty lame.
A complete moron would start to make accusations from assumptions instead of asking to clarify. I don’t mean “anything left of center”. I’m very left of center. But I do mean the militant and belligerent tankies of the Fediverse of which I see many. I wonder, did the shoe fit or is it an anger management issue?
I’m a brave soldier, they can call me what they want, but I’m ONLY RIGHT WING WHEN IN SOUTH AMERICA
In Europe I’m left wing!
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Love how justmy2c is gonna ignore this comment because it completely destroys their argument.
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Yup ignoring your actual argument about why Capitalism is better at regulating greed. Because they know it isn’t, they have to ignore that, and rely on whataboutisms, while ignoring the fact that Capitalism doesn’t even work on paper. Classic.
A small tiny example can be this: a communist government buys from China, shitty works, no guarantee, high interests, no local staff hired.
A capitalist government buys (loans) from us and actually has an insurance and guarantee and warranty that their hidroeléctric dam will be finished and 100% of promised capacity.
One is basically STEALING (with help of local president, in south am or Africa or Asia).
The other may make rich people Richer.
BUT AT LEAST THE PROJECT IS DONE.
AND THE US IS NOT ASKING FOR 11% INTERÉS NOR FOR 3$ DISCOUNT ON EACH BARREL OF CRUDE. NOR TO SIGN AWAY THE GALÁPAGOS ISLANDS IF DEFAULT ON DEBT. (this is Ecuador, I can do Venezuela or argentina or african countries too, just let me know which you want a passionate lecture on.
LET THE DOWNVOATS COMMENCE.
If you’d really like to know, there is a Wikipedia page that has a huge list of dictators killing their OWN population. Even the Austrian painter called his party (Nazionale) socialist…
But if you don’t count him, he would be one of the ONLY ones that has killed over a milion of their OWN people that was NOT a supposed communist.
COMMUNISM IS A FANTASTIC IDEA!
(but not more than that, unfortunately)
I WILL VOTE COMMUNIST WHEN THEIR LEADER IS me. Or an Ai.
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DUDE I LIVE IN ECUADOR. shit ain’t a joke. Comunists are just drug cartels fooling the PLEBS.
Ecuador isnt a communist government, you absolute moron.
15 años de correistas hijodep I’m talking about 11% interest payments to China for projects that aren’t EVER finished… To give 100million to Cuba for generators that are NEVER delivered.
That’s just a small taste of how a former president (Correa) can make 30 years of misery by signing away the country. Argentina even worse it’s now OWNED by China.
Estados Unidos sells a shit ton of its debt to China, doesnt make it a Communist country you absolute ham sandwich. Lol
If they really so communist (the leaders) why spend money in Miami if you can spend in caracas Moscow Beijing and Havana?
Of course not, my friend. The problem only arises when you make a BAD contract for 11% interest, discount on crude sales, overpriced project with 100% Chinese engineers and no warranty (just so Mr president can recieve some usd in cayman or Vatican # account…)
I’m not 14 and I don’t live in western world anymore. Unlike you and yours.
They hate you because you are right they don’t understand LATAM
They may have visited for a month and talked to 40% of the people there tho, who are so uneducated they are indoctrinated by church and (state) political parties
I guess in some forms a lack of authority to make sure people aren’t abusing each other
No, it’s the lack of respect for common sense and the extreme greed of its leaders. Historically 99.99% of comunist leaders live lavish lifestyles, kids in private schools and holidays in miami
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